SCOTUS overturns Chevron deference ruling

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  1. ElmerFudpucker

    ElmerFudpucker Road Train Member

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    Ok so you don’t trust judicial appointees, but you do trust political appointees who head up the agencies? Who are not even required and often are not knowledgeable of the intricacies of whatever it is they have been appointed to oversee. They are only there because political currency.

    And what started the lawsuit that got it over turned was the fact that commercial fishermen had to take inspectors along with them. Not only did they have to take them they had to pay the salaries of the inspectors. You are honestly ok with that? You would be ok with having to pay the salary of the dot officer who inspected your truck? And keep in mind these fishermen are gone for a week or more. Having to pay for the inspectors the whole time.
     
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  3. IH9300SBA

    IH9300SBA Road Train Member

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    I would wager the unelected bureaucratic agencies have cost us more than helped us. Every time a new mandate is handed out the consumer pays ultimately. If you want to see how useless they are the majority of the time, just look at how we rank globally since the Dept of Education was formed. And on a trucking forum, it goes without saying how great CARB & the EPA is at their job.
     
  4. gentleroger

    gentleroger Road Train Member

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    It's not that I don't trust judicial appointees, it's that I don't want them making laws/regulations. Its sometimes NECESSARY, but more often expedient. You object to unqualfied political appointees making regulatory decisions, and I don't disagree that is a problem. Inserting the judiciary into the regulatory framework doesn't solve this problem.

    Qualified immunity is the result of judicial law making. It is vague and misapplied and allowed police departments and other government organizations to act with impunity. Congress and the various states should have taken action to define and codify the concept, but they haven't and won't for reasons good and bad.

    In this case, the lower courts ruled against the plaintiffs. If the regulation itself was the problem, the Supreme Court could have ruled narrowly and either sent the case back to the lower court with instructions or simply voided the regulation. Instead, the Court issued a far reaching decision that impacts 40 years of case law and gives a lot more power to large corporations.

    If I were the tinfoil hat type, I would wonder why a Republican administration that vowed to cut regulations would introduce such a thing, why the lawsuit was funded by Republican activists, and why Justices Alito and Thomas have changed their minds on the Chevron Defrence in recent years. It's a pretty neat and tidy case decided in record time. But I'm not one for conspiracies, particularly when all sides have been resorting to the judicial system to advance their adgenda in the last 2 decades and the courts have been increasingly amenable to the tactic. Long term, this isn't going to be good for anyone regardless of their political gestalt.
     
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  5. IH9300SBA

    IH9300SBA Road Train Member

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    I'm just not sure we can handle things on a more local level....what a list!!!

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    *sarcasm implied*
     
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  6. snicrep

    snicrep Road Train Member

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    Oohh. Corporation bad!
     
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  7. ElmerFudpucker

    ElmerFudpucker Road Train Member

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    Man! First Roe was sent back to the states, then chevron, and today ruling in favor of presidential immunity. All on the heels of a weekend at Bernie’s debate. The left has taken a beating lately.
     
  8. cuzzin it

    cuzzin it Road Train Member

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    GOOD !!!!! its time for the loony left to face reality
     
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  9. IH9300SBA

    IH9300SBA Road Train Member

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    Hopefully citizens are waking up and realizing the Fed's aren't our friends and what works in NJ maybe doesn't work the same in MT. We need less directives coming out of D.C. and more localized governing at the state & local level without the Feds threatening to withhold funding for things unless they get 100% compliance.
     
  10. cuzzin it

    cuzzin it Road Train Member

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    Oh lets see, when was that a problem before..... oh yes, the American Revolution and the Civil War come to mind
     
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  11. TheLoadOut

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    Can this have any effect on any of CARB's insanity?
     
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