Ok I quit, but I’ll be back…. Maybe

Discussion in 'Questions From New Drivers' started by Chi Town Steers, May 3, 2025.

  1. 201773

    201773 Medium Load Member

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    I was home around 40 hours or so each weekend. Hogan gives one week paid vacation after one year, two after two years. Got extra time of during the holidays.

    As far as the rate, it is not working for free as in reality you are not paid for each mile you drive, you are paid to complete a run. You are paid for one thing and one thing only- make a delivery and that delivery rate is based on distance.
     
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  3. Chi Town Steers

    Chi Town Steers Road Train Member

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    Well I guess we can agree to disagree on what free work is. I understand what you’re saying, I just disagree.

    Im assuming that they left you alone for the most part while you were out working? I’m not the kind of guy who wants to talk to any dispatch yah know what I mean.

    I can just picture them sitting there at a computer 10 feet from a bathroom 5 minutes from Chick-fil-A, ready to ask me to do things he won’t do himself, at least not anymore, and maybe never has.
     
  4. hope not dumb twucker

    hope not dumb twucker Road Train Member

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    But does the family convenience store have roller grill items? And something resembling tp? Does the free coffee home with cream and Splenda? And is that everyday too?
    That sucks. Gotta keep a 5 gallln bucket and garbage bags for that reason and dude wipes or Lysol wipes.
     
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  5. snicrep

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    Yeah, it's like 8 bucks
     
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    Iamoverit Road Train Member

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    Exactly. This has been covered several times over his different threads. He claims to want to be paid for his work which would be hourly but 99 percent of road jobs don't pay that way. He needs a local job to get paid for literally everything he does yet he continues to ignore this fundamental fact.
     
  8. 201773

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    Very little micro managing from Hogan, just the driver facing cam. Once you figure out what they want with the cam you never hear from them. Allowed to fuel when/where you want (Pilot/FJ and Loves only). No routing, you decide how to go, no toll restrictions.
     
  9. IH Truck Guy

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  10. gentleroger

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    Would you rather get paid 510 practical miles at 50 cpm or 500 'zip code miles' at 52 cpm? $255 on practical miles versus $260 on zip code miles. Most companies that pay practical miles have a lower base pay which ends up paying the driver less overall despite being paid for more miles.

    And be careful what you wish for when you ask "to get paid for everything you do" and ". A lot of drivers at Schneider whined and moaned the same thing, so Schneider changed the pay structure - adding pay of all on duty time but taking away all the accessory pay. That benefited lazy drivers, but cut pay for folks like me.

    A year or so ago I had a live unload in Chicago on Wednesday afternoon then a pick up in Joliet at 0900 the next morning, delivering into GB by end of day. Not a great load, but at least I was going to get home early. At that point it was in my best interest to burn out my 70 - so I stayed on duty while getting uploaded, logged looooonng post and pre trip, and dwaddled a little at the pick up and took my sweet time at delivery. Just before I pulled out I got a series of pre-assignments. Grab a load out of the yard, deliver into Port Washington, dead head to Sturevant and pick a load to relay in Gary, then grab a relay and deliver to Beaver Dam before heading to the house. I no longer had time on my 70, and used that to get out of the loads. Why? Because it paid crud under the new system.

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    Under the old system with short haul pay, I would have made $385.62 for a little over a day's work. Under the new system I would only have made $322.42 - and that's only if I had the hours. Long story short - comparing old and new pay systems I made $1,150 less under the new system, not counting all the missed opportunities because I burned up my 70 in a dock instead of just earning detention pay.

    We can debate the merits of different pay structures. At the end, the company has a target amount they want to pay and will adjust the numbers to hit that target amount. You could get a gig that pays hourly with overtime and I guarantee that it will end up being about as much as the same work paying piece rate. Don't believe me? Look at the various pay rates and structures for the LTL line hauls - a lot of variation that ends up being about the same.

    A final thought - when you look at total tax burden, Indiana and WI are about the same as Nevada. Nevada may not have a state income tax, but their sales tax is 3% points higher.
     
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    Chi Town Steers Road Train Member

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