OOIDA v. Minnesota: Fatigue program violates the 4th Amendment

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  1. mgfg

    mgfg Road Train Member

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    That's exactly what happened in Ontario and Quebec. They preached safety BUT it was to keep a level palying field and to limit drivers as to their choices. It had SFA to do with safety.
     
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  3. RickG

    RickG Road Train Member

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    I moved this and started a new thread . At least in Canada the limits were set above the speed limit . This ruling would force the trucks to drive under the speed limits in many states.
     
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    Right>but what happens when one of those neutered trucks shows up in Wyoming? The same thing that's happening right now.
     
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    Texas raised the speed limit to 75 in some areas . OH went to 65 and is now considering raising it to 70 . The accident rate dropped when they raised it to 65 . They don't realize that allows most trucks to run at the speed limit . If they raise the limit to 70 they will be going back to trucks driving slower than the flow because too many trucks are governed at 65 or lower.
     
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    Rick G>whether trucks can run the speed limit or not is a moot point. Some of us run along all day @ 60 mph because we want to. Its no different than 4 wheelers>some do the speed limit, some do less than the speed limit and still some exceed the speed limit.
     
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    Not a moot point . Both 4 wheelers and trucks driving under the speed limit increase accident risk . Several studies have concluded that .
    http://researchfrontiers.uark.edu/8533.php
     
  8. mgfg

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    So then when I move with an oversize permit |I should ignore the speed limit provision and drive the speed limit in the name of safety. I'll explain that to the officers that stop me>are you paying the fines?

    RickG>you will NEVER have all vehicles doing the speed limit.
     
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    I once saw an oversize doing the speed limit on the 401 in Ontario running about 3 car lengths behind the OPP vehicle escorting him .
    No , we will never have all vehicles running the speed limit because cheap ### carriers like Prime and Schneider competing at BFI rates put low operating costs at a higher priority over safety .
     
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    RickG>I don't support speed limiter laws in any way BUT you also know that there will never be vehicles all travelling the speed limit on the roadways. There's just too many variables.
     
  11. RickG

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    True , but the number of vehicles driving below the speed limit should be kept to a minimum .
     
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