I would fix lights first even if temporary.
The inspection will show up usualy wiithin 48 hours the reports are reviewed by some other person before uploading. Now those times and loacations are carved in stone. I always make my logbook show correct times for those events to the minute and time s a ady or so before and after. This would be the easiest way to get caught on a logbook or audit. Then when you're caught there they bring out the magnifying glasses.
OOS in Florida- will other states know.
Discussion in 'Trucking Industry Regulations' started by PeteDucati, Mar 1, 2012.
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this way risky to be leaving on an OOS those fines are getting huge and companies are canning people for it.
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Never fudge when you've had a DOT inspection. That's just asking to have an example made of you if you get inspected down the line.
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Thanks.. technology sucks. I'll be keeping the book accurate. Ugh.
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Pete,
I will tell you some tales of other drivers. Your right, technology has made it easier to detect. When I stop a driver. A couple of databases are checked. One of those databases, pulls the last 365 days worth of inspection reports on that driver, carrier or vehicles. I run the tags and the driver and see what I find. I then check the SMS of the carrier to see if they are under a federal out of service order. After I do an inspection, my inspection is immediately uploaded into the system for anyone who has access to that database can immediately can download the same report you were handed by the inspector that put you out of service.
Years ago, that was not possible with the old handwritten reports because it was at least 15 days before the handwritten reports were entered into the system. As the push to go to electronic reports has increased it has made it very easy. I have had numerous drivers that I have stopped over the last 5 or 6 years do something like you have suggested. Most of them jump the out of service order from log book issues. The look on someones face when I print the inspection report they had done a few hours later in another State and show them is hard to replicate. Some State's it is a jailable offense, some just a steep fine. For the driver it is a disqualifying event by itself which will result in the disqualification of that driver's CDL for a period of 1 year for a first offense. Here's the disqualifying information: http://www.fmcsa.dot.gov/rules-regulations/administration/fmcsr/fmcsrruletext.aspx?reg=383.51
I don't know what the audit does for the carrier but I imagine it can not be agood thing. Even if the roadside guy doesn't catch it, an audit will.DrtyDiesel, Hardlyevr, PeteDucati and 3 others Thank this. -
When I had my compliance audit the DOT person handed me a 'Carrier Profile' printout, the 36 months of inspections you used to send away for to scrutinize b/4 everything went on-line w/ SafeStat.
They expected the carrier to have a copy of every inspection on that printout.
Now I hear they expect to see evidence of the repairs for each violation too!
Besides the inspection being quickly avaialble to other inspectors the individual driver's pre-employment program printout will list each inspection back 3 years including the violations, report number and DOT number and name of the carrier.
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Let see:
A car hauler with inop lights
14 hour violation
Possible based out of NJ
Violated FL OOS order
Wonder if a FL DOT LEO could query their system and find a possible match for these parameters?
I wouldn't know if posting on here would convict someone in court, but they could suggest FMCSA pays an unannounced visit to the carrier for an audit of that driver's logs.
You know seeing all that posted in this forum just makes you think....you're kidding, right?Last edited: Mar 2, 2012
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I didn't violate the OOS! I parked for 10 hours exactly where I was instructed to. I asked if the OOS would be available for other states to see if I were stopped for anything. In the past two months I've been stopped 3 times for random checks - and it's a nice, newer car carrier that was far from overweight.. once was an emissions check?!?
I had 11.5 hours on duty, slept for 5 where there were no facilities. Woke and wanted to find a place to eat and buy a test light and tools to rig my parking lights. I was one hour from a Love's and got pulled over for a random log check at 3pm. So, I now have 17 hours of nearly consecutive "sleeper berth" logged, with the one hour driving and one hour for the DOT check after my first 5 in the sleeper.
All I wanted to do was put my log book back to where it would've been if I hadn't been stopped and forced to take my 10 consecutive off.Last edited: Mar 3, 2012
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