Is your life worth $50K ?

Discussion in 'Tanker, Bulk and Dump Trucking Forum' started by Guntoter, Apr 19, 2012.

  1. Guntoter

    Guntoter Road Train Member

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    We had another rollover/explosion today in Arizona. As most of you know, a rollover with fire is ALWAYS fatal in the fuel hauling business.
    I used to think that it was just part of the job. Im beginning to question whether or not getting $50K per year to be treated like a rookie steering wheel monkey is worth dying for.
    Dispatchers in the fuel business are under more and more pressure to get 14 hour days out of drivers. This puts us in the same category as most truck drivers...
    Im tired of falling asleep at the wheel of an 8500 gallon bomb while some minimum wage desk jockey tells me Im not working hard enough.

    Im out.
     
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  3. kajidono

    kajidono Road Train Member

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    They can only push you as far as you let them. Like you're saying, it's only a $50k a year job. Hell with pushing that hard or risking your life over some desk jockey bs. If you lose the job, whatever, you still got your life. Roll on to the next job.
     
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  4. Guntoter

    Guntoter Road Train Member

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    I wish that were possible in Phoenix, AZ as in many areas, if you are "that driver" who is only willing to work 60 hours per week then you will get blackballed. Everyone here knows it. Drivers are constantly in fear of being considered a slacker, so no matter how tired you are, you get up and drive. Most times you make it, some times you forget to flip your placards or write your beginning miles on your tripsheet. Sometimes your mistakes cause a spill or cross dump, sometimes your mistakes get people killed.

    Nobody seems to be too worried about dispatchers in Phoenix ignoring the law about requiring drivers to work when they are tired or more than 70 hours.
    I might drive up to Heber (to the black spot in the ditch) and ask that driver how he feels about it.
     
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  5. Voyager1968

    Voyager1968 Road Train Member

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    Sad to hear about another driver losing his life.

    You're right about being considered a slacker. No matter where I've worked, the goal is to get the most out of the driver and truck as is possible. Runs are scheduled so tight it's nearly impossible to stop for even a small break, let alone a meal. 12-14 hour days are the norm as are 6 and 7 day work weeks.

    Only in trucking is a 40 hour week considered part-time, at least in the eyes of the companies and dispatchers.
     
  6. Everett

    Everett Crusty Shorts, What???

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    okay , so im kinda confused here, are you staying up all night at the casnio or something, the law is the law, once hours of driving is up, its up, are you working in the yard, if not i be headed home or sleeper and getting some sleep, instead of playing around somewere, or mayby go teams , split the shift with anthor driver if your having that much problem , keeping awake just a few thoughts i had
     
  7. kajidono

    kajidono Road Train Member

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    Oh, black ball me. Please. I'll rape your dead carcass in court and love every minute of it. But don't take that as advice, that's just me.

    Like I said, better to get away from a ###### job and still have your life. It doesn't matter what you make or what you have, once you lose out that last time, none of it matters. So if you know it's that big of a problem, and you do or you wouldn't be here, get the #### out.

    Go haul something non-flammable. Go haul water. Go haul flatbed. Go into the used car business. Go drive a tow truck. Go back to school and learn how to build space planes. Just do something before you wake up burning alive in the cab and regret not doing anything. You know I'm right. You know you're right. You just wanted to hear someone else say it. So there it is.
     
  8. aiwiron

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    I dropped my tanker and hazmat years ago, I worked as a tanker yanker and driver trainer. Pulled tanks out of Fairfax Virginia and hauled on percentage, drivers would come in and your box would be full of load tickets and fully knowing you could not haul all of them on a shift.

    After being pushed I started to buck back, tightened up on the training and rookies.

    After 2 years I had a rookie, he could not haul the mountains empty and was dangerous so I took him off the training. One of the terminal managers lap dogs took him out one trip and passed him, well I got a good bit of grief and I told them I would not be training for 30.00 more a day for them.

    2 weeks go by and rookie gets a out load to Cumberland Maryland Sheets station, runs down the mountain off the no truck exit ramp, rolls over and burns down houses and the truck as well.

    I quit the next week
     
  9. Gorgeous George

    Gorgeous George Light Load Member

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    :biggrin_25511:

    Seriously, who told you the driver died or that there was even a fire??

    http://www.kpho.com/story/17587605/tanker-rollover-closes-sr-260


    Posted: Apr 19, 2012 3:00 PM CDT Updated: Apr 20, 2012 7:25 AM CDT Posted by Steve Stout - email






    I know the stretch of road where this accident occurred. I doubt that the Showlo fire department responded fast enough to extinguish a fire. You can see by the picture that the truck and trailer are intact, though on their side.

    The driver is lucky to be alive. Had he laid it over at any number of spots along that road there wouldn't have been enough of the truck left to identify.

    :biggrin_2558:

    I have been pulling tanks for over 30 years now, with 18 years of gas hauling. I worked for ARCO, (just like Gashauler did) for 14 of those years. I have seen any number of tanker fires. When those fires occur in as remote an area as Heber, there isn't enough left of the equipment to identify what even happened, let alone let the LEO's do a DOT inspection.

    If you are unhappy with your working conditions and pay, it is maybe time to look for a different employer, instead of whining about it here. There are tanker jobs out here that will pay you much better than $50k a year. The trade off is moving to where those jobs are, then possibly not being home every single day.
     
  10. Guntoter

    Guntoter Road Train Member

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    So 14 hour days shouldnt make me tired? There you go, THAT is exactly what Im talking about... Listen to yourself, working 70 hours a week 14 hours a day is INSANE! But I guess Im lazy, I only want to work 50 hours a week.
    BTW Everett, TEAM driving local fuel deliveries sounds like a great idea.

    "up all night"??? I guess being in Iowa you couldn't understand what a man feels like after standing next to a big shiny trailer on an asphalt parking lot in 125 degree sunshine for 14 hours. So NO I am not hanging out in casinos all night, Im home sleeping in front of my air conditioner.

    "sleeper"??? NO CAN DO ... Maricopa county says 5 minutes is all I can idle my truck... You try sleeping when the LOW temp is 105 at night...

    "split the shift with another driver"??? Yeah, lets ask the owner of a fuel transport company if he'd like to hire on an extra guy for every truck so he can pay workmans comp, medical, payroll tax, social security, etc on TWICE AS MANY DRIVERS!

    BRILLIANT !

    BTW George, you are correct, there was no fire. Dept of forestry sent an airdrop as a precaution in case it did burn. That is where the confusion (for the television reporters and myself) came from. Channel 10 reported "fuel tanker crash and fire" yesterday.
     
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  11. Cudascious

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    Pulling Haz mat flammable, companies should be more geared towards safety rather than overworking drivers. Just get a new job, F it.
     
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