For Those Who Went From Paper Logs to Electronic

that's becuase you've never done a truckers job the way trucking was invented.. your too lazy and prefer being told what to do and how to do it.

you've beeebn a glorifided steering wheel holder hooked to a ball and chain your entire 5 year career.

you like having a box tell you when to sleepm, when to drive, where your going and how to get there. all you have to do is hold the steering wheel and make sure you don't get tired before the box tells you too.,

 

a quote from another thread from one of your elders...
"All in all, e-log has grown on me, I never thought I would hear myself say that."
18 years experience, goes by supersnackbar

A veteran driver that has more knowledge than you, since he has actually used elogs.

 

E-logs aren't the issue, the HOS regulations are the issue. Elogs just do the math for a person so you can put your energy and focus onto something else instead of drawing pretty lines and marking stuff down.

It's still a computer. Garbage in, Garbage out. Do something wrong, and you will spend more time fixing it than simply tossing a log sheet and starting over with fresh lines.

And yes, elogs and EOBR's make the driver a simple steering wheel holder. It takes the knowledge out of what a driver SHOULD be doing and makes it a position of a trained monkey.


And elogs SUCK in the aspect that you are required to do things inside an algorithm that sets a driver up for fatigue.

Running on paper logs, you can adjust yourself to do what needs to be done. If that means a 2 hour nap at 2 in the afternoon, then you can. Elogs do not give you the flexibility to do that. It forces a driver to work 14 hours straight because the Regs limit you to the 14 hours and the algorithm forces it upon the drive.


Now, do away with the 14 hour clock entirely, that would be an entirely different situation.

THAT clock right there was the biggest thing for me to adjust to when I came back onto the road this year. But it wasn't difficult to understand once I saw what was happening.

As to the rest of the "bickering".....


Jeez, everyone needs to grow up.

 

I still take an afternoon lunch break and cat nap with elogs. and stay within the 14 hour clock.

But I do agree, that the 14 hour clock is the dumbest rule they added in 2003. Elogs do not control when I stop, or start. The HOS LAWS do.

 

read my VERY FIRST SENTENCE.


You have a reading comprehension issue too.

 

You did state that and it was simply pointed out, that statement is incorrect.

 

A driver on paper could take a 6 hour nap and still complete his 11 hours driving

A driver on elogs would not be able to.

If its less than 3 hours, a driver can still do it in a 14 hour HOS window, paper or otherwise

if that three hour window is burnt up, elogs are screwed to get their 11 hours driving for the day in. Their 14 hour clock will be gone and they will be short however many hours they may have slept, detention or whatever held them up.

Paperlog users will/can fudge the book to make it fit.


So no, it's not an incorrect statement

 

As stated many times before, you are trying to rationalize running illegal.

 

So the so called EOBR's are law. Well according to the house its on hold. Congress and the house passed the transportation act and eobrs was stuffed in it but when it sent to the house it took a voice vote to hold off on the eobrs. Reason being cost of small businesses and a back door tax. Now ti goes before the appropriations. Will it pass prolly but will it be mandated for everyone thats to see. Dot has until 2013 to show just cause for this 2 billion dollar expense. The ATA, QUALCOMM and some other outfit stand to gain hundreds of millions. Dot even want to pass a law making prepass a law for every state so they can track trucks . So tell me you really want government watching your every move they cant even get their own crap together

 

So autocar your saying in 33 yrs of trucking you never fudged one log book. I say bullpucky