Foodliner, Inc. - Dubuque, Ia.?

Discussion in 'Motor Carrier Questions - The Inside Scoop' started by lmccracken, Mar 18, 2007.

  1. SmoothShifter

    SmoothShifter Defender of the Driveline

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    I haul flour and sugar on the dry side. And yeah, we do haul high fructose corn syrup, but people "choose" whether or not to ingest it. It would be like blaming a beer hauler for alcoholism using your analogy.

    I am all about finding viable alternatives to oil and coal. But it's been documented over and over again that fracking does damage in multiple ways, and actually has a 20% higher ecological footprint than coal use.

    I turned a high $$ job offer down because of my stance on it. So yeah, when I saw russtruckers boasting about the big money - it struck a chord with me.


    Thank you.

    A lot of my attitude comes from the experience of being down and out and not being able to pull a paycheck. Kind of reminds me of a quote.

    "No matter how good or bad a situation is, rest assured, it will change."
     
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  3. wsyrob

    wsyrob Trucker Forum STAFF Staff Member

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    I hear you and respect your opinion. However your alcoholism analogy doesn't hold water in the debate over high fructose sugar and processed food products. There are laws that regulate alcohol and tobacco sales to children. Part of the chldhood obesity problem is caused by this stuff tasting so good and it being marketed to children much like tobacco used to be. It is addictive in its own way.

    I just found it ironic that a guy who makes his living burning petrochemicals has such a problem with the companies that acquire them for him. Raping the earth is a little strong and struck a cord with me.
     
  4. rockee

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    Although I don't have any sort of dog in this fight, raping the planet is a pretty strong statement but you have to admit it's also pretty accurate. Fossil fuels are not renewable (in our lifetime) or replaceable.
     
  5. wsyrob

    wsyrob Trucker Forum STAFF Staff Member

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    We can agree to disagree but driving trucks requires that the earth be "raped". The fact that fossil fuels are not renewable matters little in the debate. Once they run out we will stop "raping the earth" and move on to some other energy source.

    I just think the damage done by happy meals and tobacco is greater than "raping the earth" because it happens to people. Foodliner hauls the flour used to make hamburger buns for the fast food industry. People are more important than Mother Earth. JMHO.
     
  6. SmoothShifter

    SmoothShifter Defender of the Driveline

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    With all due respect in return, childhood obesity is also directly linked to parents ( the usual source of money to buy the processed stuff ) not being diligent about what they shovel into their kids yaps. Yes, I peddle flour and sugar, but it doesn't go exclusively into Twinkies and Happy Meals. We go to dog food plants as well. The nation still eats bread - albeit a lot of bread.

    I suppose if you want to discredit what I said by finding hypocritical practices in my life, the sky is the limit. I probably burn some of that fracked gas in my apartment to stay warm. I don't drive a Prius, but I do have a 20 year old Mercedes that pulls 28mpg. I drive a truck without an APU and idle it when it's cold out, although I do urge my company to visit installing them. Should I lease purchase the truck, I will have one on it myself.

    I am not perfect and do not purport to be some golden boy tree hugger. Sometimes, I don't recycle. But if the opportunity is there to sort them out and dispose of it properly, I do so.

    Wind, wave and solar are great sources of energy. We have the technology and intelligence to use alternative fuels ( bio-diesel for example ). And yes, to extract oil, some raping of the planet goes on. What I would like to see is less squandering of the resources. If you limited the unnecessary idling alone, it would equate to billions of gallons per year.

    Mother Earth will do just fine despite being raped. And yes people are more important, but in respecting them, we should respect the place that sustains them as well. I loathe the system driven by greed. I loathe the deception and how they mess with our foods. I supported the GMO labeling bill. One of our biggest customers is on the opposing list. I don't buy their bread, but I don't piss on their flour either.

    I think my original comment to russtrucker was along the lines of being around all those chemicals, many with carcinogenic properties that will more than likely have some health consequences down the road. Why do you think they get paid $3000 a week? Is it because they get muddy or maybe the inherent danger of getting a little toasty should something go wrong?

    I've done a little more research on the subject. There is plenty of propaganda on either side of the coin. But my gut reaction is that it's not good for the environment. It's not respectful of the planet, it's not respectful of the people on it, and it's not respectful to the intricate eco-system - including the wildlife.

    But please, don't make me out to be some crack pusher to school kids because I happen to haul flour and sugar and little Johnny can't seem to keep his fat face out of a chocolate cake. Talk to his parents about that. I fed my kids good healthy food, and none of them are overweight.
     
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    Funny thing about foodgrade products is you have a choice..consume or not.

    As for petrochemicals there isn't a choice..they're in everything along with the air we breathe.

    I don't get into the debates over environmental impact,it comes down to what the people want/need.

    Take away either one and see what happens.
     
  8. Logan76

    Logan76 Crusty In Training

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    Welp I stand on both sides of this argument!

    I worked in the gas patch up here in PA for awhile and now I haul liquid food grade!

    I'm all for natural gas exploration, I'm also all for processed foods!

    Let them chubby kiddos keep beefin' up, it just puts more $$$ in my wallet! ;)
     
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  9. SmoothShifter

    SmoothShifter Defender of the Driveline

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    Now that's funny.

    Then when everybody wakes up, we can haul flatbeds full of MRI machines and exercise equipment! Let's go into business, I'll hit the bank up today.
     
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    wsyrob Trucker Forum STAFF Staff Member

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    Works for me.

    My main intent in posting was to make a similar exaggerated point about the food grade industry as was made about fracking.
     
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    Sign me up.
     
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