July 01 marks the beginning of new guidelines that will once again affect all of us connected to the trucking industry in one way or the other.
The new HOS guidelines are readily available online in case you've been living under a rock
Although the tweaking of the HOS rules are causing consternation for most, the mandate for EOBR (Electronic Onboard Recorders) by the FMSCA has been by far the most controversial issue I've witnessed in my experience with the trucking industry.
The mandate is not yet fully implemented, it's being challenged on varying levels in the courts by assorted trucking associations, however, my conviction is that it is only a matter of time before the use of EOBR's will be mandatory.
The regulatory arm of the Federal Government carries a big stick...
Even if the mandate for EOBR's is rejected by the courts, I believe that the factors of liability for the trucking companies, shippers, receivers and brokers will be enough to force companies into EOBR compliance voluntarily.
Why? Let me explain at least one major reason why, namely HOS violations.
The establishment of CSA2010 by the FMCSA has much to do with it. The BASIC (Behavior Analysis and Safety Improvement Category) scoring system utilized by the FMCSA via roadside inspections places responsibility for compliance on both the driver and the company.
Depending on a particular violation noted during an inspection, a weighting and time frame score is levied against both driver and company.Thresholds for violations are measured by the scores of a peer company. Go beyond the threshold and driver and company can be placed under review by the FMCSA. Which goes back to an original point I made, the FMCSA carries a big stick!
If the company has a high score in the HOS section, the FMCSA is going to recommend to the company owner that installation of the EOBR in the fleet will make them a lot happier, if you know what I mean.
However, going back to the liability issue, anyone can now view the CSA BASIC scores of a trucking company on the FMCSA website, including shippers, receivers, brokers and lawyers!
Why is that relevant? Let me share an anecdotal story I heard recently. A particular trucking company continued to employ a driver that had many violations, including being arrested for crystal meth use, etc. One day while driving down the road viewing pornography on a laptop rigged on his dash and utilizing the services of a call girl, he was distracted and ran into the back of a car, killing a teenage boy and severely injuring a young girl.
The lawyers went after and won a large settlement for the family. They sued and won against not only the company but the BROKER who brokered the freight! They convinced the jury that the broker was culpable because they should of known (based on readily available info) these guys were bad actors.
So, if I'm a company owner and my scores on CSA are skewed anywhere near the threshold mark for DOT review and scrutiny, I'm doing whatever I need to do to change things, including installing EOBR's on my fleet trucks even if they are not fully mandated.
Why? What if one of my prized shippers start to get nervous about my CSA BASIC scores and feel they are in danger of being liable for continuing to do business with me in the event there is an accident with one of my drivers and a major lawsuit ensues?
This is only one reason why I believe more and more companies will continue to install EOBR's even if the mandate is delayed.
HOS changes and my perspective on EOBR's...
Discussion in 'Trucking Industry Regulations' started by Scooter Jones, Jun 30, 2013.
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The EOBR were only to be installed for safety reasons, HOS violation are NOT safety related , those are human errors either on purpose or not...That is what the whole court battle is about..Once again I challenge any company CEO, or safety guy ....if I log my paper logs exactlly as my day goes then how can an EOBR "make me a safer driver" ? it cant..The push for EOBR is " in my opinion a 100 percent "enforcement" & "harrasment" tool....whats to stop the company form saying you have hours, drive.Yea maybe I dont feel like driving at this time,,,They will micro manage drivers to the point of robots...This is why the courts will never mandate them unless your company is a proven violater...Big companies can not get rules in the name of safety when it is not about safety..but they still try....To your 2nd point..Liability will always fall where it should with or without EOBRs....
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the problem is the word "if"
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lol on the if , but dont you sign your loogbook under the penalty of perjury that all info was entered by you and is true & correct.?
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First question I would like to ask you, are you O/O or do you have any drivers under you? Your right as far as IF you turn in perfect logs EVERY time Elogs will not make you a better driver, NOW If I could of gotten my guys to turn in perfect logs EVERY time, I would have never installed Elogs in my trucks.
For us it was ALL about liability and NOTHING about micro managing drivers.vikingswen and king Q Thank this. -
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We didn't lose anyone , but there was a ton of crying about it, NOW, a month later most of the guys are running as many or MORE miles because it tells them EXACTLY what they have left, it has actually made some of them better planners!
Now with the coming mandatory 30 minute break and more importantly the lose of the second restart, I could just see how it was going to screw some of these guys up. -
"The government isn't going to control me through one those EOBR's!"
I hear that statement consistently from drivers all the time. To which I reply, "the government is telling you (via regulation) what you can and can't do at least a hundred times a day..."KANSAS TRANSIT Thanks this. -
"You can't make any money (miles) using one of those thing!"
That's another one I hear all the time. When I tell them I average over 12,000 miles a month and am home at least 2 nights and a day and a half a week, those same guys start stuttering. -
I personally like using an EOBR. Along with keeping me from making basic form & manner mistakes (which make up 70% of all log violations) I like communicating with and receiving my dispatch info. via the unit.
I also like the diagnostics (truck performance metrics) features available on a fully functional EOBR. It has helped me become a better driver I believe.
In addition, I like the fact that dispatch cannot STRETCH me like a rubber band anymore by putting a plan on me that they know I cannot legally run, but just might because I aim to please and perform would accept. If I receive a dispatch I can't legally run now, I just tell them nope! Can't make it on time. If you want me to do it, I will be there by such and such a time. Almost 100% of the time now they tell me to grab the load and they reschedule.
That's life!
I mean c'mon now, we all know that dispatch would NEVER put a plan on a driver that they know he couldn't possibly legally run, RIGHT???scottied67 Thanks this.
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