Insurance woes in Canada, Any suggestions?

Discussion in 'Canadian Truckers Forum' started by bgtruc7, Sep 14, 2013.

  1. bgtruc7

    bgtruc7 Bobtail Member

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    I am in Ontario, 13 years otr experience. I was off the road for 2 years. I bought a truck and back on the road 5 months ago. I am working as an o/o. I have opportunities to work independent under my own authority. I got good insurance quotes but they wont sell me insurance until I am on road for 1 year plus. We all know Ontario is a joke when it comes to business and trucking! Is it the same everywhere? Anyone know a way around it? I can relocate if that is what it takes.
     
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  3. dilligas

    dilligas Light Load Member

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    Enlighten us as to why Ontario is a joke...this will be rich.
    Move, Government insurance is available in MB,SK and BC, test the waters there if life is so bad in Ontario.
     
  4. bgtruc7

    bgtruc7 Bobtail Member

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    I will check that out, I would gladly move out of Ontario. Ty
     
  5. Prairie Boy

    Prairie Boy Road Train Member

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    dilligas is right on.
     
  6. JayTee

    JayTee Light Load Member

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    If you run the US, set up an LLC in a prorate friendly state like Indiana. Insurance costs are 40% +/- what rates are in Canada and your plates are cheaper too.
     
  7. Prairie Boy

    Prairie Boy Road Train Member

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    Plates are cheaper?????? I don't care where you buy plates or prorate. You will pay the prorated portion of a plate no matter where you buy it.


    To explain it in a simple fashion, if you prorate BC, AB, SK and MB and you prorate your miles 5% BC, 10% AB, 30% SK and 55% MB and the plate costs $3000.00 in each province. You will pay BC $150.00, AB $300.00, SK $900.00 and MB $$1650.00 which totals $3,000.00 Now for taxes, if your truck is worth $100,000.00 BC taxes would be 5% of $8,000.00 (taxed at 8%) = $400.00, AB $000.00 (no taxes) Say SK is 8% also that would be 30% 0f $8,000.00 = $2,400.00 and good old Manitoba at 8% = 55% of 8,000.00 = $4,400.00. THE PRICE OF PLATES IS BASED ON THE WEIGHTS YOU REGISTER FOR. No special deals.
     
  8. JayTee

    JayTee Light Load Member

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    Although you're 100% correct, I set up an LLC in Indianapolis a few years ago, pay $3200/year for heavy prorate based out of Ontario for North American coverage, yet that drops to $2600 with the Indiana Co. The reason I was told is that the Canadian jurisdictions levy more tax on a Canadian base plate. I know Quebec alone was a ton cheaper based out of Indiana.
     
  9. JayTee

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    That said, I closed the IN shop a couple of years ago as my main accounts want to deal with Canadian carriers. I even learned how to say EH? again too. :)
     
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