Hate to trade my truck with C15 but got a big Mpg education this week with a Volvo

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  1. IH Branded

    IH Branded Medium Load Member

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    Before I bought my first truck I felt I did a lot of research. I wanted a Cummins or harder to find Detroit but came across a truck that had such great care and outstanding shape but had a Cat C15 2006 Acert with 3.36 and 13 speed. I understood it would be harder on fuel but would make up for it in longevity. Thought it was a pansy so Cat increased to 550 hp. since had 1850 tranny. Improvement in power but not much. Bought a Bullydog that really made her go but my intent is for fuel economy not blowing doors off. BD did nothing for mpg. Even added air dam on cab and nothing.
    I get 5.5 or less on IFTA's and have mostly thought people were full of BS on getting over 6 mpg pulling 65,000 to 80,000 flatbed and vans like we do. Well after a guy ran into us head on and my truck was in the body shop I was given a Volvo to use with a 2006 D12 370 hp in it, 10 speed, 3.70 and I averaged for the week 6.4 mpg that's a whole 1 mpg difference and some serious change on 120,000 miles per year!!! I felt sorry for the Volvo as big gaps in gearing and could never own a truck that was forced to lug like that. Really no gear for 48 - 54 mph. Over revved or severely lugged. Nice riding truck but engine braking is not existent and the dash is cheap and cheesy. However it would put a lot more money in my pocket.
    I am just sick. My truck is drooled over by many and shops can't believe how good a shape it is in. It gets continued meticulous care by me. I have replaced water pump. Also the input shaft thought the clutch and transmission was a piñata and beat them this spring so now I have a new clutch and rebuilt reman transmission. Truck uses 2 quarts of oil at 11,000 miles and I change it every 12,000 miles. Not a leak on it anywhere. My truck has 480,000 miles on it now. New virgin rubber everywhere. I feel I would be giving the next guy a gold egg and perhaps buying something someone else could not wait to get rid of.


    1. Should I just keep it and try to get my money out ?


    2. Convert it to a single turbo with kits now being advertised and offered for big mpg gains ?


    3. Trade it for something else ??


    I am thinking I should pull the twin turbos off but have not heard of anyone who has or has done it for an extended period of time for results etc.
     
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  3. Cat sdp

    Cat sdp . .

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    If the truck is payed off I'd keep it... No truck payment is priceless , especially when the truck is in great mechanical shape.

    You failed to say if your truck is a hood ? Not fair to blame the engine , for the aero advantage of the Volvo ......


    ps The single turbo conversions for the c-15 are like 10k. And need to be done by someone who knows what their doing. And I'm not sure but I think that fuel milage is way down the list of reasons to convert.........
     
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  4. ‘Olhand

    ‘Olhand Cantankerous Crusty

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    How fast/hard r u running? If motor is right u Can do better--I have an 05 accert--550 heavy haul 18/3:36--379 285wb--no aero 53' stainless spread always at 80k&more
    Never break 65---religiously keep manifold psi below20--lug down to 1k on pulls avg 6.65--ain't great--&miss hard runnin sometimes but doable and im not only one doin it---drivers right foot has more to do w/fuel mileage than anything
    Just my .02 good luck
     
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  5. cuzzin it

    cuzzin it Road Train Member

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    You want to trade in a 550 cat for a Cummins ? Why ? Tune it, i'm avg about 6.8-7.4 every month in mine
    And as a bonus in Jan. i'll have a stay away from Commiefornia truck.... Win-Win
     
  6. daf105paccar

    daf105paccar Road Train Member

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    IH branded,i don't quite follow.
    7y old truck with 480 000 yet you talk about doing 120 000 a year.
    Previous owner did few miles?

    As to MPG,your experience supports the theory that a 12/13liter is cheaper on fuel with 80 000lbs gross.

    What you call lugging the Volvo?how many rpm's?
    Because i have read many posters on TTR who don't know how to run a specific engine.

    If your 06 looks that good..........now might be a good time to sell it?
    I would advice you look at the numbers and see what will be most cost effective for you.
     
  7. bull hauler

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    If ur ever through iowa and want to talk to a mech that does the double to single conversion in acerts let me know ill get u his number. He gets acerts runnin at 7 mpg and has ref's, not sure what he charges
     
  8. Cowpie1

    Cowpie1 Road Train Member

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    My DDEC IV 12.7 Series 60 regularly averages, year round, mid to high 7's. Sure, I am not running like I am trying to get poll position at Daytona, but I am not doing some sort of sub 60 Prime Trucking kind of thing either. A free flowing pre-egr engine, regardless of brand, when done right and driven right will deliver some respectable fuel mileage. I haven't gotten less than 7 mpg average since '96. That is with a Cummins N-14, 3406E Cat, Detroit 12.7 60, Detroit 14 60, and Cummins ISX. The ISX was the worse with that EGR nonsense until I disabled it.
     
  9. IH Branded

    IH Branded Medium Load Member

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    International 9400i
     
  10. IH Branded

    IH Branded Medium Load Member

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    International 9400i not the best but not the worst
     
  11. IH Branded

    IH Branded Medium Load Member

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    Never break 65 mph. Try to never let it lug below 1250. At 65 it is at about 1300 rpm perhaps that is too low ?
     
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