Did this thread die when I left?

Discussion in 'Trucking Industry Regulations' started by LogsRus, Nov 1, 2013.

  1. brsims

    brsims Road Train Member

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    Welcome back, Logsy! I'm on E-logs these days, so the computer does all my log thinking for me. No questions at this time.
     
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  3. LogsRus

    LogsRus Log it Legal

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    Hey! l.o.l. I hope your joking ;).

    Im just saying no one even post questions like they did before!
    Gotta liven this place up :).
     
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  4. LogsRus

    LogsRus Log it Legal

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    Its very simple:
    After your
    2 hr break, go to the end of the previous break, count out 14 hours, that's when your 14 hour ends.
    The driving time from the end of the previous 8 or 10 hour break should be subtracted from 11 and that's how many hours you can "drive" but must complete that driving time by the end of your 14 hr.

    8 hr break, go to the end of the previous break 2,8 or 10 and count over 22 hours, thats when your 14 hr ends.
    Go to the end of the previous break, total "driving" hours and subtract that from 11, that's how many hours you can drive and must be completed by the end of your 14 hr.
    if you take 8.30 minutes in the sleeper, you count over 22.30 hours from the end of the previous break.

    You will never have a full 11 hours available to drive however it allows you to complete the remaining of your 11 with less.
    It also allows you if your smart, make your 30 minute brk a 2 hr break, work the remaining of your 14 hour window and now you only have to take an 8 hr sleeper break. This means you are still only taking a 10 hour break as to what most are doing now a 10.30 minute break.
    Just keeping it basic.

    Soon I will have a graph, maybe this weekend! I am working at home fro work but it's on HOS and will be graphs.
    I will ty to get to split breaking :).
     
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  5. 062

    062 Road Train Member

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    True but you can redraw in so many ways.
     
  6. vikingswen

    vikingswen Road Train Member

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    I would never do such a thing since that would be illegal. Also you got to remember all the time stamps on your bols and fuel receipts. That is where people get nailed doing the outlaw trucking. It is the log audit at the main office by the Feds that will nail those little discrepancies.
     
  7. FwL

    FwL Medium Load Member

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    You NEVER get your 11 and 14 back when you split break. You only get what you haven't used since your last break.

    In your example, you drove for 4 hours and 45 minutes after your first break. After you took the second break you only had 5 hours and 15 minutes of drive time to work with. (11:00 - 4:45 = 5:15)

    You also had 9 hours and 15 minutes of your 14 to work with. (14:00 - 4:45 = 9:15... the 8 hour break does not go against your 14)

    Let's say you drive another 2 hours after your 8 hour break and spend 15 minutes fueling. Then you take a two hour break.

    When you come back on duty, you'll have whatever drive time you didn't use since your previous break (11:00 - 2:00 = 9:00), and you'll have what is left of your 14 since your previous break (2:00 driving + 0:15 fueling + 2:00 break = 4:15... 14:00 - 4:15 = 9:45 on duty time left)

    Just remember that any break less than 8 hours counts against your 14. Any sleeper break of 8 hours or more does not count against your 14.
     
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  8. 062

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    As a o/o I pay cash for fuel,so the chance is that even at audit,if they call to get time by invoice # by the time they get info audit will be over.
     
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