cummins isx to n14 swap

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  1. msidman

    msidman Bobtail Member

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    Im looking at a 05 kw 900 and its basically a glider. Has a 13 speed trans and a torn down isx short block in it that i was told cant be rebuilt needs to be replaced due to sitting out side for over a year. Would a n14 swap over easy enough? Or will i have issues with wiring ect? I want a motor with out all the emissions crap on it and i dont have to worry about emission stuff here in AZ where i live. Any thoughts??
     
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  3. Heavyd

    Heavyd Road Train Member

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    For a professional who swaps different engines all the time and has the available resources, it can be done easily enough. For a back-yard, or most general shops this is a huge project!
     
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  4. russtrucker

    russtrucker Road Train Member

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    My uncle had a 2000 century with isx, didn't like it, been in the shop too much. He took it to a shop (dont remember) and swap to detroit 12.7.
     
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  5. Cowpie1

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    On a glider, there shouldn't be any issues.

    When one considers this on a regular production truck, the emissions stuff comes into play. But there is an "expected life expectancy" of an engine, as established but the EPA. After that point, the truck engine is no longer required to meet all the emissions in place the year the engine was manufactured. For heavy on road diesels, that is [FONT=lucida sans unicode, lucida grande, arial, sans-serif]435,000 miles/10 years/22,000 hours, which ever is longer. So, once could replace an EGR engine with a non egr variety, in theory, if the time frames have been met. This is a gray area. But it does beg the question though... who would even check? That is unless you are running CA, and then that is another can of worms altogether.[/FONT]
     
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  6. russtrucker

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    You want to say that if the egr engine is no longer running to CA, you can get rid of egr.
     
  7. Cowpie1

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    If the engine has met the useful life limit the EPA has specified, then yes. I gave the useful life interval established by the EPA in my last post. If the engine has reached this point, the EPA deems it as having met it's useful life for emission standards and does not have to meet those standards after that. I am sure they assumed that the engine would be so worn that it would be virtually impossible to meet the standards. There is no indication that they took engine inframes and other stuff into consideration. They just stated the miles/hours/time interval the engine had to remain in compliance. After that, the gloves are off.
     
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  8. little cat 500

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    i think going from a isx to n14 not a good idea like bad to worst
     
  9. kwswan

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    Funny, you're the first one I have heard say that. Good & bad in all brands but for the most part the N14 was a pretty reliable engine. I have a 02 six with 1.3 million on it that has a hole in the block, so how much worse could a N14 be.
     
  10. Pablo-UA

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    I did it... the most difficult deal is to rewire
     
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  11. g7ster

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    I totally agree with you. Lack of knowledge and equipment will surely mess up the work big time.
     
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