Questions from a wannabe...

Discussion in 'Questions From New Drivers' started by TJ11235, Jun 10, 2014.

  1. TJ11235

    TJ11235 Bobtail Member

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    I think OTR trucking would be right for me. I love the open road and I have a few friends who would miss me when I'm gone, but no family.

    Right now, I'm working as an electrician's assistant who only pays me a few dollars over minimum wage. It's barely enough to get-by on, so I don't have a lot of savings. I don't think I could afford the $4000-$6000 tuition of a private truck driving school, so I guess that leaves me with the company-sponsored CDL training programs and their 1-yr contract with low wages. I say "low wages," but to be honest, it would probably be as much as I am making now (plus I would get the free CDL training and driving experience).

    Can anyone suggest a company-sponsored CDL training program that hires in Florida? I've looked into CRST a little bit, and I think they would be OK if I knew someone who wanted to team-up with me, but since I don't, I'd rather not get stuck with someone I don't know for the length of the contract (since it's a team-driver program).

    Any other suggestions?
     
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  3. 8thnote

    8thnote Road Train Member

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    Almost anyplace would be better than CRST or England. Those are the ones to avoid at all costs.
     
  4. just_the

    just_the Light Load Member

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    Goto the advanced search feature, switch search type to "titles only" and search for company training; you'll surely find what you're looking for... good luck!
     
  5. Toomanybikes

    Toomanybikes Road Train Member

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    What ever you are making as a electrician's assistant is more than what you may make in the first two years trucking!. That is especially true at a "training company."

    That training company training is just a gimmick. Most of the training is poor and the catch is the one year contract to pay for the training. Most do not make it one year. 100% turnover in the industry. So even with a $5000-$6000 debt hanging over their heads, most cannot stand working with these companies to clear the debt. It used to be a standard two years to cover the training, but there was not a chance in hell that anyone would endure that. So good luck.
     
  6. TJ11235

    TJ11235 Bobtail Member

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    Well, I'm only grossing $400/wk as an electrician's helper. $10/hr. The largest expense I have right now is rent for my apartment. If room and board is provided by the training company, I planned on moving-out of my apartment. I may even sell my truck. So, without rent due or the monthly auto insurance, my bills would be nil.

    Would I be able to stay on the road all the time, or is there a mandatory amount of off the road (home) time each month? Because without my apartment, I'd have to crash on a friend's couch or at a motel.

    There's another website (truckingtruth.com) that has some info about company-sponsored trainers. For example:

    Knight Transportation:

    During CDL Schooling:
    Tuition cost: $2600 to $3100
    Up front expenses: None
    Meals Provided?: First week
    Room provided?: Yes
    Ability to pay up front?: Yes (10% discount)
    Contractual obligation: None
    CDL School duration: Approx. 30 days
    CDL Classroom Time: Minimum 40hrs
    Backing/Driving Time: Minimum 14 days
    Students per truck: 1

    On-The-Road Training:
    Duration: 3 to 4 weeks
    Training pay: $400/week
    Students per truck: 1
    Trainer Minimum experience: 6mo.

    After Training:
    Starting Pay: 27-36cpm (sliding pay scale)
    Health Benefits: Yes
    Vacation Time: 5 days after 1yr
    Regional/Dedicated Opportunities: Yes
    Forced NYC: No
    Forced Dispatch: No
    Hometime: Very flexible
    Drop and Hook: Approx. 70%
    Lease Program: Yes
    E-logs: Yes
    Truck speeds: 62-65mph
    APU units: Some trucks


    So, after reading this, it seems I would be making as much during the 3-4 weeks on-the-road training time as I am now (and I wouldn't be paying rent). Then, after training time I would be making a minimum of 27cpm. As I understand it, a bad week would be ~1500mi. So, on a bad week at the minimum rate, gross would still be ~$400, right? What about fuel and tolls? I'm assuming the company would be responsible for any breakdown expenses or things like blown tires. What about the leasing policy? Would I have to lease the truck? What does that cost?

    One obvious thing about the Knight Transportation program that I'm leery of is that the minimum experience required for trainers is 6mo., though, as I understand it, most company-sponsored CDL training programs are like that.

    I've noticed not a lot of companies with sponsored CDL training hire from Florida. Why is this? Prime does, but apparently has occasional hiring "freezes" on Florida.
     
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  7. Ridgeline

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    First off think about it, it is a hard life which is also dangerous. Most of us make it look easy or don't complain about the BS we go through because we are so used to it.

    Second learning how to drive isn't an issue, you can do this and become an asset if your record is clean, you are clean *(no drugs) and willing to put up with BS for your first year.

    I would take time and look around, make a list of companies who train and call them, see what they have to offer. I read how bad this company is or that company but it is always up to the individual to judge it and if it is all that bad, do your time that you committed to and leave on good terms.

    By the way forget the idea of Free training, there is no such thing, either you pay or some one else does. A company will train you but then expect you to pay for it by working, which is the right thing to have happen.
     
  8. Wooly Rhino

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    As an electrician assistant you are serving an apprenticeship. Had you gone to an Union shop you would be making twice that. So, do you like working with electricity? If the answer is no, then okay, try trucking. The fact that you like the open road is a lot more romantic then it actually is. We do not have any open road. We have to be somewhere at a set time.

    Okay, so you want to learn this Profession. First thing you need to know is that you need a license. Period. That is what the schools train your for. To past a state test. They do not teach you the business at all. Then you find a company to start with. They will train you their way of doing things. Each trainer may have a different version of that so you have to find someone who you can work with. You also need to remember that the trainer doesn't care about you and your problems. He only wants to get you out of his truck as fast as he can without you tearing the truck up. The company wants you to move as much freight as possible before you head off to greener pastures.

    So you picked Knight. Just as good as any other company. They all have good and bad things. Even CR England has some good things. I don't know any but they have to be doing something right. Your job, Mr. Phelps, is learn as much as you can and move on, without getting so burned out you quit the industry.

    Welcome to trucking and don't be afraid to ask for help.
     
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  9. TJ11235

    TJ11235 Bobtail Member

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    I think I can tolerate a lot. Half of my job now is wiring/bending conduit, while the other half is digging ditches (by hand) outside for the wiring. Outside. In the Florida sun. During Summer. For $10/hr.

    I'm drug/alcohol free. During my 12yrs of driving, I've had three moving violations. All speeding tickets. The last was in 2005. I was doing 10-over the limit. I'm a very defensive driver. One has to be in most areas of Florida. There seems to be a higher average of idiots on the roads than other parts of the country.

    Thanks for the advice. I'm doing this now. There's just a very steep learning curve.

    As I understand it, with a program like Knight's, there is the option of no up-front costs, but the tuition will have to be paid back eventually. The questions I have are: when do payments start and how big are they?
     
  10. TJ11235

    TJ11235 Bobtail Member

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    I understand there are deadlines. I'm not completely delusional. I also understand that I'd be sleeping in a sleeper bunk and eating at a lot of roadside diners and truck stops. I'm okay with that.

    I would probably only stay with the training company for a year-or-so and then move on to another company (hopefully a company that would pay +40cpm and give me +2000mi/wk). I had to look up the "Mr. Phelps" reference.

    Thanks!
     
  11. just_the

    just_the Light Load Member

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    Plenty of ways to eat healthy on the road; stay away from the diners!

    Good idea w/ the 1 year starter company; after 1 year exp. a lot of opportunities open up. A lot of the better pay companies save $ on insurance by requiring a minimum amount (usually 1 -2 years) of safe driving.

    If you think you'll like, I'd say go for it.
     
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