54trucker,the moment the wheels lock up,you lose control.
That's the first thing which is wrong in your statement.
Secondly,why would any truckdriver decide to lock his brakes???
Honestly,all i see in your statements is a blind hate ,without really knowing how they work,for all things new.
Maybe that isn't the case but that is how you come across.
Anti-rollover devices
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A skid is the last thing a driver wants, I do believe that anti-lock brakes is one of the best things a motor vehicle can have no matter its size. Yes I have put them on my 359 it wasn't easy.
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Properly applied brakes will stop you faster than ABS when conditions are less than ideal. If you know what you are doing, there is no need for ABS. None of my personal vehicles have it, and the only reason the Mack has them is because the feds required them by the time it was manufactured. There are situations where you might want to skid a little...and times when you need to STOP where the ABS keeps releasing & re-applying the brakes because 1 brake decided to grab, depleting your air supply and lessening the braking force available to the other 9 brakes that aren't trying to lock up. This extends the space needed to stop, potentially CAUSING you to hit something that would have otherwise been avoided. Yes, I've driven trucks and trailers without ABS, and I've never had any problems controlling them. I don't need the vehicle making decisions for me on how best to handle a situation.
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I used to enjoy locking up the trailer brakes and seeing a little smoke coming up with an empty trailer, it gave me the feel of the brakes, how quick they would grab and how quick they would release. That is the whole purpose, I wasn't referring to locking up the tractor with a load in traffic.
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ok, now were on abs, away from anti roll.
Anyways, on a car, abs can cycle your brakes on an off way faster then any human can. On snow or ice you will be pumping brakes and thus abs is a decent feature. On trucks, the computer cant out brake me. Do the the lag time on air brakes, the compter cant cycle at supper speed. So, on airbrake trucks, i dont like abs. Its one more thing to breck and put you OOS. If i get in a ahiry situation, im gonna know how to pump brakes and dont need the abs to do it for me. Older style abs systems are even worse. On our trailers we have a dup valve on th rear ax;e to aid in making turns. (dumps air in rear axle transferring weight to front. If you brake, the rear axle locks since it has no weight on it. When this happens the ABS releces the brakes on both axles thus temporarily killing the trailer brakes. Trick is, dont use the dump valve untill you done brakeing, but the abs makes this situation worse.54Trucker Thanks this. -
ABS stops a vehicle faster and safer then without, plus you get the benefit of not flat spotting your tires.
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EBS air brake is faster than hydrolic brakes on many cars.
For all US truckers I'd recomend to test OLD EU truck with EBS (for exampe 97 Actros), ore '00 Volvo FH with EBS. Better idea - to test trailer with EBS. -
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it is very interesting to me that americans have so much resistance to new and good things, even people in 3rd world countries accept technology faster
until 5years those people did not want to buy our second hand trucks with electronics , now they wants only them
here now it is very hard to sell used truck with manual transmission, also hard to find driver who is willing to drive it
my friend have actros with lot of equipment 550hp , chipped 15%, he spend lot of money for extra things, lights everywhere, interior , exterior his truck is famous even in other countries, germany austria swiss everyone flash lights when met him
once his was driving on highway and it was strong fog, and than out of nowhere (from emergency lane) car appeared in his track with very low speed, truck started to brake before he could see car , he could not stop completely only damage headlight bumper and this radar for distance , but those people did not died
here is short list of technology on trucks that appeared on european market, of course those technologies were not as good as today but still it was strong step forward
1979, Mercedes start to use ABS on road trucks
1983, Scania start to use automated transmissions for first time
1983, Renault offer disc brakes
1985, Mercedes start to use automated transmissions for first time
1986, Mercedes offers EDC as extra equipment on certain models 35,44
1986, offers ECAS air suspension
1987, Scania is worlds first truck equipped with EDC as serial
1988, Mercedes offer automated transmissions as serial equipment for road trucks
1996 june, Scania offers EBS as option
1996 autumn, Mercedes offers EBS as serial
from 2000s and latter, it is pretty hard to follow who offers what but volvo and mercedes get very far in this other just follow, trucks get adaptice cruise control, emergency brakes with radar, lane guard, tire pressure managment,sensors for blind spot , even cameras that recognize if you are tired, some drivers did not like that so they latter remove them and now it works on way you steer and how truck follow lane54Trucker Thanks this.
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