Spinner II vs other extended oil systems?
Discussion in 'Trucks [ Eighteen Wheelers ]' started by RTR, Dec 13, 2014.
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mine keeps leaking...seeping. having a hard time keeping it clean these past 4 mos, messy, messy, messy. been in truck since Oct.13.
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Last edited: Dec 15, 2014
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The spinner is a great addition to the filtration system, as far as cost it is cheap, 2 "O" rings and a piece of paper. You need to mount it so it drains as straight as possible. and has air supply to ensure it drains.
I have never seen a spinner leak, or cause a problem, they do need the filter paper to work properly.
As far as an bypass filter, I cut apart the filter years ago and was not impressed.
Oil life is a subject, I know a little about, we had a fleet of trucks that use to get all their work done at our shop, the longer the oil change intervals the shorter the engine life was.
I know every trucker checks his oil every day after it has sat and is cool, and if you do that you will have noticed that after an oil change the oil level will stay stable for a long time before it starts using oil, that is the maximum 1/2 life of the oil, you can extend the life of the engine by changing the oil, and it may get short.RTR Thanks this. -
So much good information for me to read and decide on. From what I have read and understand, it does have it good points as far as keeping your oil cleaner longer and takes care of any soot or most of the soot in your engine. I do get a oil report each and every time I have my oil changed and it has done me good to do this. My question is now:
I would still get the samples done at 20,000 to 25,000 miles to check everything, but from what I am reading the oil still looks good for quite some time when you run the oil bypass system so I would not be harming my engine to run it longer in between oil changes and this in fact would pay for the spinner II in a matter of a year.
I had a 2003 W900L KW Daycab, with 1.2 million miles on it and never had a problem with it, hauled heavy (Logs and Pulpwood) for 3 years. Changed the oil at 20,000 and got oil sample with it every time. This truck did not have any type of bypass system on it. When it came time to sell it, the deal came down to it having 1.2 million miles on it with no rebuild on the engine. At this point I pulled out the oil samples and maintenance records and got the price I was asking for. With that being said, I know you can go a long way just by doing the required maintenance ( I am a stickler for this).
But again I am looking at keeping my engine 2007 T600, Cat C-15 Twin Turbos, 840,000 miles on it running some longer before I have to rebuild it. -
The bypass filters are great, but almost necessary once you start with EGR motors. Was that 2003 KW a pre EGR motor?
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Again, remember not much on the tech side on my truck. Not sure about the EGR part, it was a MBN Bridge motor. Maybe you can help me better understand the EGR Part.
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Been off for vacation. Pray everyone had a Blessed Christmas! From what I have read on this page and looking up on several other post on this, most of the oil bypass systems are better to have than not. I am leaning toward the Spinner II unless I am missing something, it is the same as the FS 2500 just different way it does it and what you have to do in order to get the your oil sample? If I am missing something on this PLEASE let me know, as I will be buying one in the very near future.
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I have been using the FS2500 on my last two trucks. My last one was a EGR Cummins ISX, my present one is a factory rebuilt pre-EGR Series 60. The primary reason I use a bypass is soot control. Soot is not really a problem, from a simple standpoint, but soot can "clump" and create larger particles that are still too small for the stock full flow filter, but can be captured by the bypass filter or spinner. I have read several articles that seem to agree that once soot particles get to the 4-5 micron range, they start being abrasive to the engine.
I don't use the bypass to go to wild lengths on oil changes. On my FS, they state changing the filter at 10,000 miles. I let it stay right there thru my 20-25,000 mile oil changes and soot stays below 1%. That length of time is 30-50% longer than Detroit's OCI recommendation for the pre-egr Series 60 of 15,000 miles. That is my comfort level, the oil samples look fine. I get a great oil by the drum at a very good price, delivered free with free oil sample kits and free analysis. I don't feel the need to tweak things out longer.
A bypass or spinner is a good investment on any engine.... pre-egr or one of the newer ones. Barely noticeable on a cost per mile basis, and will actually provide a benefit.RTR Thanks this.
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