Swift ranking system. How to accurately predict when our ranking will go up...

Discussion in 'Swift' started by DocWatson, Mar 11, 2015.

  1. Eckoh

    Eckoh Medium Load Member

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    i was told take the load or take a service failure. so i get screwed either way.

    oh and try to demand to have a load moved see how far that gets you.

    Yeah its our choice to move a load and its swifts choice to say move it it find a new job and label you with abandoning a truck. You can only take so much of a stand and still have a job.


    BTW Swift has put preventables on people for getting hit in a truckstp parking lot saying they could of parked else where. They will really nail you if you are on a legal but still an end parking place.
     
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  3. Moosetek13

    Moosetek13 Road Train Member

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    A SF is better than a preventable, every time.
    And if you can document with pictures...

    How would you be abandoning a truck in this case? I don't get the reference.

    Everyone should be aware of how things work with accidents.
    If you admit fault, in any way, they WILL pin it on you.
    If you are hit in a parking lot while parked in an end space, they may ask if there were any other spaces available when you parked. If you say yes, then you could have prevented the accident by finding a better spot.
    If a deer runs in front of your truck and gets hit, NEVER say 'I hit a deer'. That is admitting guilt, and you WILL get a preventable.

    No insurance company wants to pay, and they will find any excuse not to.
    So they will phrase questions just right, in just the right way to lead you to say a response in a way that can convict you.

    I know of people that have responded, something like... 'A deer ran in front of my truck, and I hit it'.
    Preventable.
    But... 'A deer ran in front of my truck and hit me'.
    Non-preventable.

    Eckoh, if you had sent a message via Qualcom that you considered the trailer unsafe to transport they would have had no choice but to replace it with a safe trailer.
    And you should ALWAYS request that instructions like that be sent to you in a QC message so that it is legally documented.
    If you make them send it to you on QC, they will back down because that means they would be responsible.

    CYA
     
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  4. Broccelli

    Broccelli Medium Load Member

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    It really depends on the office or terminal. There is a fundamental problem within the office and often times there is a mentality that exists that seems to generally divide the office against drivers, contrary to what the CEO says

    That philosophy is often times lost on some of the office personnel, but it is a problem that is not specific to swift nor this industry. There are many inefficiencies in middle management in most large organizations, if I were CEO of swift there are a lot of things I would change, but I'm not so I have learned to play the game and I regularly remind the office personnel where they belong on the playing field.

    The condition of some of our older trailers is a problem that I have recently had to start dealing with again since I have moved from target dedicated to northeast regional. It is an issue but with around 40k trailers or so it is impossible for them all to be perfect unless the problem is brought to someone's attention. I feel more anger towards the last driver who did nothing about it though. Just the other morning I spent 30 min of MY time re wiring a tail light that had obviously been broken for a while (the severed wire had a lot of corrosion and it appeared as though someone had pulled the light out and hastily placed it back in since it was improperly seated).

    In eckoh's situation it is kinda your fault for taking the trailer. I would have just fought the service failure, but then again no one in my office would dare try that crap on me. The office should not have pressured you into taking the load, however and they tried to take advantage of you and your inexperience. If I were your terminal manager I would have some tough decisions to make in that situation.

    It is also a catch 22, if you have the load cross loaded you lose money and no one will compensate you for being safe. Yeah you may get detention but detention pay comes no where close to how much money I make by hauling the load down the road and the first two hours are free.
    But doing the right and safe thing is often times thankless and uncompensated, again a problem not specific to swift or this industry.
     
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  5. DocWatson

    DocWatson Road Train Member

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    I'm in agreement with the sentiment that 25 points is excessive. I agree with Moose that about 5 points should have been given for a 20 minute safety talk.

    I've worked hard to get back down to -4 from something like a high of +8 at one point (critical event and an overweight scale ticket). Both mistakes on my part but I worked hard to get back down to the negatives and now everyone is handed 25 RA points?

    I'm not sure what to say about the ranking system. With me it's one of those "it is what it is" scenarios. I took time off, earned 0 miles for months so now I have to play catch-up. I can tell you that Bronze sucks so more motivation to get that Platinum. Still running just under 3000 miles a week and still Bronze.
     
  6. Moosetek13

    Moosetek13 Road Train Member

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    Getting it back is a lot harder than losing it. I've been there.
    I'm still there.
    I'm borderline between Platinum and Gold, and seem to stay that way.

    That is my own fault however, not anything that Swift does to me.
    I don't try to run the max miles each day, but to just stay in the ballpark.

    But it also depends on on-time and safety scores.
    To simply improve a safety score for no good reason just means that Swift wants to either make drivers feel good or the scores somehow reflect in Swift's overall CSA scores.
    Or something.
    Either way - bad mojo by way of false information.

    All the video's about 'Power of One', I think, don't do squat.
    There are good drivers, and bad - by the drivers' very nature.
    No juvenile produced video will change that.
    We are either a safe driver, or not. Period.

    No amount of 'helping video's' will help either group. And giving away safety points won't either.
     
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  7. MysticHZ

    MysticHZ Road Train Member

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    Just out of curiosity, what did on road say about the trailer?
     
  8. Eckoh

    Eckoh Medium Load Member

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    As of right now they "cannot find it" since it was fixed after it broke on me. That's why I am in limbo. If the see that it was equipment that failed then it's not on the driver. However I get the feeling when they find the trailer it will magically be fixed before it's found. Just so they do not have to admit their equipment is crap.

    What broke was the latch that held the door to the side of the trailer. Wind broke that and swung the door with such force into the truck next to me it broke 4 of the hinges on the door. According to the alright suit the resides what is preventable and what is not seems to think you can prevent a gust of wind from blowing.

    The biggest thing that angers me is I get a preventable for equipment failure and I know a driver the drove into a ditch and had to be towed out and he got a non preventable for that. Go figure.
     
  9. MysticHZ

    MysticHZ Road Train Member

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    No, I mean when you called them after your pretrip to let them know the doors were damaged.
     
  10. scottied67

    scottied67 Road Train Member

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    Most guys will latch the door back to the side of the trailer then use a bungee cord as a secondary safety or maybe some 9 wire to secure the door back to prevent it from swinging open.
     
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  11. Eckoh

    Eckoh Medium Load Member

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    If the wind blew hard enough to break metal do you really think a bungee would of done anything??
     
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