Protection for yourself in the event of a collision

Discussion in 'Questions From New Drivers' started by Commuter69, Apr 16, 2015.

  1. bubbagumpshrimp

    bubbagumpshrimp Medium Load Member

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    Yup. The key is to be careful and not be doing dumb **** behind the wheel. I.e.Playing on your smart phone, driving too fast for the conditions, following too closely, or anything else where you could be considered negligent....and increasing the odds of a collision.

    I see a LOT of truckers everyday that are accidents waiting to happen. You know the guy (nine times out of ten...it's a male driver)...60+ MPH on the interstate and their following distance behind a four wheeler is AT MOST two car lengths. I love the excuses that I've seen posted here. "But the four wheeler darted in front of me." Ok...but why haven't you even lifted you foot off the accelerator or applied the brake to attempt to increase the gap? "Because another one will just pull in there!" Seriously...I've seen that posted here by multiple people.

    I keep a greater following distance when I'm riding my motorcycle because I want time to react and develop an exit strategy in the even that something happens. Following that closely only gives you time to apply the brake a fraction of a second before you eat the bumper of the vehicle in front of you.

    Accidents happen, but reckless people and people in a hurry make them far more likely to happen.
     
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  3. Grouch

    Grouch Road Train Member

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    Anyone can sue anyone, but remember, once an employee of a company "goes on the clock", the company is responsible for the employee. Now that is not to say that the employee cannot be sued, but it is very, very unlikely and even if it does happen, the insurance of the company has the responsibility of providing legal protection.
     
  4. G.Anthony

    G.Anthony Road Train Member

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    In every truck I have ever driven, part of my pre-trip inspection is the glove box (or similar) and check all the truck papers. Fuel sticker, IFTA sticker, Registration, and Insurance coverage's, with the insurance company name, phone number and start/expiration dates.

    Even though the insurance papers in your truck could show it is expired, the company should have new papers in the office, that they can fax you, or send you a photo copy at your home perhaps, or the terminal you work out of.

    Ok now as for an accident, again, did you check to see if you have a company camera as well as all the truck documents? If not, you should have one. The safety dept will tell you to use up ALL the pics. so if you have a camera with say 36 pics available? Use all 36 pics.

    And be sure it never get's used, like when you're going near the Hoover Dam. Try explaining that to safety when you only had 1 shot left!

    I was always told, NEVER take pics of the victims. I say BS, take them. If they claim they had a broken leg, how will they explain they were standing yelling at you? (i say take your chances, and snap'em). I'd rather get yelled at for taking pics of a possible fraud, then pics of the Hoover Dam.

    Now, ALL trucking companies are supposed to be insured. For how much? who knows. Certain cargo requires certian amounts of cargo insurance.

    Liability, injury, etc,etc..?? again, who knows. That is NOT on you.

    Whether you are at fault or not, YOU WILL BE SUED in civil court.

    Problem comes however if you did something wrong, like falsify your logs, in some way, like tolls, starting at the wrong time, not taking your breaks, etc,etc.

    So be "Johnny Be Goode", out there, which IS possible, but even the best of the best screw up.

    Never admit fault at the scene, NEVER talk to anyone but the cops, safety dept, and your company's lawyers.
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    Good case in point.

    Happened to me many, many years ago as I was driving a brand new 1992 Pete 379

    Greyhound was on strike. A scab driver was driving the bus. I came onto the highway from an exit ramp, legally in the right lane. He was in the left lane, he suddenly went into the right lane and hit me. Much damage.

    He came up to me to see if I was hurt, he said he was sorry, it was his fault.

    NJ state troopers showed up, and I sang a song to them.

    NAILED the scab driver, took him away in fact, as guess what......ALL 60 or so passengers in that bus claimed they were hurt. (when there are injuries, the driver is taken away)

    Greyhound lawyers tried to sue my O/O boss AND me, he (my boss) said screw you, your boy admitted fault at the scene to MY DRIVER AND THE NJ Troopers. (as found out later, scab driver got some tickets)

    Never heard a dam thing, and that was back in 1992.>!!!!
     
  5. Commuter69

    Commuter69 Road Train Member

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    If you haven't been down yet, you will be..... I have at best estimate over 350,000 miles on two wheels, with the last collision �� or moving violation more than 200,000 miles ago.


    I credit that to the multiple times I have taken MSF courses over the years (just to keep up my skills and insurance discount). I have done StreetMasters a couple of times, and was invited to sit in on the training that motorcycle officers are required to do.

    I was also a certified MSF instructor and made extra money �� on weekends teaching new riders. I support legislation requiring MSF training for new riders as well as closing loopholes in the requirements for motorcycles with sidecars or that were converted into trikes (in California, these are not classified as motorcycles and motorcycle endorsements are not required).
     
  6. bullhaulerswife

    bullhaulerswife Forum Leader/Admin Staff Member Administrator

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    This is the correct answer. Anyone can be covered by a blanket liability policy. We had one when hubby was hauling cattle, simply to cover what wouldn't be covered under his commercial auto policy. Say he didn't quite latch the gate at a ranch after loading in the middle of the night and the cattle got out on the road, and a van full of people hit the cattle and got killed. Ultimately he would be the responsible party for the cattle getting loose and could be named in a law suit for it.

    They are really not that expensive either. Good protection, depending on the underwriter.
     
  7. Cat sdp

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    Probably needs a commercial umbrella these days.....
     
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  8. kemosabi49

    kemosabi49 Trucker Forum STAFF Staff Member

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    Have a friend that used to drive city bus (AC Transit) in the Bay Area. Said that he had a couple fender benders. Always had injured passengers and once had more injured passengers sitting outside the bus than he had on the bus to begin with. Imagine that.
     
  9. Commuter69

    Commuter69 Road Train Member

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  10. G.Anthony

    G.Anthony Road Train Member

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    Well I don't have anything more than a pre-paid phone, why would I go out and buy a digital camera. Now, my pre-paid phone does take pics, but guess what, I DO NOT pay any extras. Like internet, email, etc. Why should I pay for something when the company IS responsible for equipping me with a camera?

    When I had a damaged load, my boss asked me to take pics and send them to him. I said, ok, how do I do that with my pre-paid phone?

    So I grabbed my company provided camera, snapped all 36 pics, put the camera in my nightly paperwork, and my co-worker who goes to the bosses location, handed him the camera, 1 day later.

    You guys spending all this money for this gizmo, that gizmo, do you get reimbursed for your bill, the batteries you use??

    I spend no money for my company, and they darned well know it. In fact, once you do that, spend your money for them, come a day you'll be holding your finger up yer butt to get reimbursed.

    Been doing this crap 26 years now, I will not provide freebies to the company. Provide me with what I need, or get someone else.

    And I always get work, amazing.
     
  11. Commuter69

    Commuter69 Road Train Member

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    Even if not reimbursed by the company, any 'tools' you might purchase for use on company time are tax deductible; and they belong to you.
     
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