How to tell a double brokered load.

Unless i get paid 75% of what the shipper paid to ship, I got double-dipped.

 

Alan, that's not how it works.....not even close. Roshea explained it perfectly to you. Your dispatcher found a load from Schneider, negotiated that load, and gave it to you. Whatever your percentage is to Mercer, they get from that load, you get the rest, that's not even close to what double brokering is.

 

If you want to rewrite the law then that's fine, if that's how you see it. So when Mercer gets you a load directly as a motor carrier they pay you 100%, correct? Perhaps a review of what a broker actually is, and isn't, would be in order.

You expect the motor carrier to NOT make any money off the load? I assume the concept that THEY lease the truck FROM you and legally are in control of that vehicle as if it is their own is also a foreign concept? They lease a truck and you provide a driver. They have the authority, are responsible for the liability insurance and cargo insurance, all the paperwork required for driver files, the requirement to audit every single log, keeping permits up to date, keep drug testing records, and the myriad of other minutia required. But that should be free because, well, ... why?

 

You are the reason this does not work! I will have 75 % of what the SHipper pays. Anything less than that is double dipping.

 

That constitutes a classic case of double dipping.

 

Only a fool argues with the master.

 

I can't tell if you are actually serious and believe the dribble that you write, or just having a good time not caring what you right, either way,you are completely back asswards in your line of thinking.

YOU said you LEASED onto Mercer, which means you have to pay them, SOMETHING, they sure ain't doing it for free, so when they secure a load for you, you get a percentage of that load, that's not double brokered that's called, BEING LEASED ONTO A CARRIER.

You are calling it double brokered because the carrier you are leased onto, also happens to have a brokerage side, but you have absolutely no clue if they are taking anything out of that load, (they aren't, you just think the percentage you pay them, is going to the broker side instead of the carrier side, you have no concept of what being leased on means.) Regardless sounds like that's a personal problem that no one but you can help

 

I see things slighlty different and I may be totally off base, but the trucking industry works differently then every other industry using brokers. You like to think you are getting the lions share of the rate but the problem is that the full rate is hidden from you. The broker negotiated with the shipper and knows the full rate but that is never disclosed in the broker/carrier transaction. The carrier can learn shipping lanes and going rates but youll never know what the broker has in the deal. So you might be getting 50% of the total rate.

Now take any other industry that uses brokers. Like real estate. The broker has a set rate. The price of the property is negotiated between buyer and seller and the broker gets 6%. So each party knows this going into the deal. But in trucking a broker has a lot more leverage in the negotiation because they are the only party with one piece of vital information.... the actual rate. If this were like any other industry both parties would know the actual rate paid and negotiate a fair share for each party but there is no transparency in trucking, its not required.

Thats not to say its impossible to negotiate good rates but even when you do you still dont know how well you really did without that one important piece of information.... the actual rate.

 

Crackin,

Easiest way to solve that problem? Take the last month of loads you did, call the brokers up, ask them for their rate confirmation from the shipper,

Regardless, who cares how well the broker did or did not do, as long as you got what you wanted, right?