How to tell a double brokered load.

Basically you are correct. If you hauled the loads at a profitable rate then you are doing what you are supposed to do. Point being the broker has no responsibility to share any real rates with carriers so you will never know if you could have done even better. To be honest I w.ouldnt share either if I had a clear advantage in a negotiation. Why hand the power over to the other side. Thats business

 

They do though, if they are asked, they must turn that sheet over

 

I wonder why everybody believes the broker has the leverage. Don't need to see what the broker makes, don't care either. They do not own the trucks, trailers, nor manage the drivers, last time I checked all they do is move paper. The leverage that they have is the leverage that we give them with our equipment and drivers. Independents need to start working together and need to form a leverage base of their own. We work with both brokers and shippers alike, sometimes it is to our advantage to use the broker and leverage with them, sometimes not. At the end of the deal it is us who dictates the value of our services, the broker has to take our price and add their margin to the top of it, the shipper does not. If you know the baseline of what it would cost a shipper to run their own equipment then you will be able to bid properly. Supply and demand does not dictate this in trucking like other industries, we can quite simply control the supply and demand by leaving an area when there are too many trucks in that area. I realize that we have the right to ask for a copy of the rates from the shipper to broker to carrier, but it would not matter about that if we were all bidding properly in the first place.

 

They are also required to provide the name of the party they are billing.

 

price is about 200$ below market price! but do not worry ... it is not the first time either the last you take it up the ### At least do it with grace! I told my dispatch not to ask me any more if I want a load or not but to act as if it was her truck.In 2 months if I do not make enough money I will talk to her boss which is the owner of the company that I am leased to who in my opinion I pay to get me loads........Grace my friend! take it up the ### with grace!

 

This might already be mentioned, but as a carrier, specifically as the driver, when you get the bill of lading it will generally have a spot on it where it says CARRIER: xyz trans. When you have the ability to look at a bill of lading, instead of either signing slc and scribbling your signature, take a moment and look at the information on it that was filled out before you got it. I'm not necessarily talking about reading the fine print all the time, but often a BOL will not only say who the carrier is, which, in most instances it should have the brokers company name in said area, or if it has your carrier name in said area, likely the load is not being double brokered, but notice the consignee- the company who is purchasing the product in most instances, notice if it says prepaid or COD, you can learn a lot about a load, a lane, a company, a broker, a shipper, a receiver, a warehouse or a direct shipment from looking at the info on bills. If you're a Landstar O/OP and you pull a load off one of their boards, and you get a BOL that says the carrier is TX LOG SERVICE- this means that a landstar dispatcher took a load from a broker, and they will refer to the broker as the "customer" when in reality this is much more of a co-broker situation. As a carrier, my concern for double brokered loads is much less to do with the revenue- if I get my price i'm not concerned too much with what the broker(s) make, but I do not want to go through the process of collecting on my freight bills because of how easy it is to get your authority as a broker and carrier, take loads from brokers acting as a carrier, then turn around and broker the load with no intention of paying the bill, ever. This has been done thousands of times and should shed light on how ridiculous the $10,000 surety bond was...additionally, $75,000 is a slow weak for someone running that scam.

As a broker, you need to be much more concerned about loads being double brokered. I'll cut this off here and just say this; if you are dealing with a carrier with whom you are not familiar with, run their MC# on safersys and check how many trucks and drivers they have and how many miles they show on their MCS-150. If you see a company that shows 1 truck and 1 driver and 30,000 miles ran the previous year, that's a red flag. But the way I have taught those who cared to listen the best way to weed out "carrier-brokers" is to ask for their MC#, and while i'm entering it into company snap shot I ask if it is a company truck or an owner operator, and then I tell them the reason I ask is because the way you check in at this customer is by MC#, and the MC# I provide them must match the MC# on the side of the truck for the driver to get a door- if the MC# doesn't match they call me and I tell them to refuse the truck. This practice sends brokers acting as carriers looking for loads off load boards to the first kid with a headset and no clue who has no business in this business and just wants to "sell" the load and act like they did something special. And for the scammers out there, you know who i'm talking about, they're the green as grass guys who feel it necessary to tell you the miles on the load before they tell you the rate.

Cliffs notes: Do a little investigative work, and develop some preventative maintenance and you'll be able to spot double brokering pretty quick and you'll also learn a lot more about what's going on at Telemarketer Quality Logistics or Source One Transportation...who scammed DART....by charging for services never provided...whose wife worked in accounting...who poisoned himself with potassium to delay court dates. True story.

 

Like that one, I will have to use that from now one. Good post