CDL "A" and new restrictions

You've been given the answer by a group of people that did help. It's just not the answer you were hoping for, so you continue to search.

Also, you just posted the answer yourself, lol.

 

You mean I paid all that money for truck driving school,and all I needed to do was go to uhaul,and rent a truck and trailer?
Boy,am I a dope!
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So let me get this straight, a sport chassis freight liner is a tractor and not an oversized pickup?

I know several people who had their test in a fl sp and got no restrictions but that truck is made for hauling, not towing.

It is getting a bit ridiculous with these restrictions, doesn't seem to help much when you consider that up until the 80s all we had to have was a simple endorsement to drive a truck and no road test.

 

Short cuts to getting a license leads to short cuts on the road. Thank God they have these restrictions now.

I love it when these NEW restrictions come out of that have been in force for years.

If you are not driving a semi then who cares about the restriction. I started with a Dodge 5500 and a 44' gooseneck.

 

I am slightly confused. This is from the VA DMV website. As CDL requirements are supposed the same state to state, I assume that other states are similar;
Class A
Any combination of vehicles with a gross combination weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 pounds or more if the vehicle(s) being towed has a gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of more than 10,000 pounds. Vehicles in this class include:

• Tractor-trailer
• Truck and trailer combinations
• Tractor-trailer buses

According to what some are suggesting, as the pick up is designed to haul cargo, it isn't a tractor, so you should have a restriction. The same should be said of a carhauler with head rack, yet few would suggest a restriction on that type of truck.

 

You all get of course here because I'll bet most are from the east. What this guy is trying to do is show up in a truck/trailer combination vehicle. Same as a semi if it meets the weight requirements. Combinations of vehicles with a GCWR of 26,001 or more pounds provided the GVWR of the vehicle(s) being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds. Holders of a Group A license may,with any appropriate endorsements, operate all vehicles within Groups B and C.

That's how it's spelled out in my FMCSR little green handbook 383.91 Subpart F-- Vehicle Groups And Endorsements.

However, you might or might not be allowed to take a CDL Group A license skills test because there's too much missing with a simple pick-up truck even thou it meets the weigh requirements. I would suggest that anyone that is going to try to use this type of set-up read and be sure you meet all the requirements of FMCSR 383.91 to 383.135.

 

I have never heard of tractor/trailer CDL. There's (like I posted before) a Group A which includes a combination of vehicles to include a semi or tractor/trailer and a truck and trailer. On a truck and trailer the power unit can haul cargo or whatever. A semi the tractor can not haul any goods and is simply a power unit. ( of course the states can modify this and allow under permit a dromedary or deck to haul freight). So as I see it this guy is trying to split the Group A into a sub-group. I don't think he can. Either you qualify for Group A in accordance with the FMCSA or you don't.

 

Straight out of the CDL Examiners manual:

"An applicant who passes a skills test using a combination vehicle that is NOT a Truck Tractor Semi-Trailer combination, but is otherwise equipped with a fifth wheel, will be issued a CDL with an "O" restriction."

Not sure on the L or the E as you are a pick-up truck and I don't really deal with hot-shot folk.

Hope this helps, your local friendly CDL Examiner.