Hello, I am looking for a 2016 Freightliner Cascadia truck to buy new. I have been doing this for months now and still need help coming to a decision. One of the things that throws me off is the horsepower and how the dealers say they can use computer to make it from 475 to 505. A couple of them told me it was safe, but one particular sales man told me I was better off buying a FACTORY 505 due to the truck being built with 505 horsepower in mind along with the components.
Now, who do you all think is telling the truth here and from your personal experience what do you all think would be the better option? & is it safe for the engine going from 475 to 505 with no complications?
Please let me know what your thoughts are on this subject as it would help a lot.
Thank you!
Changing HP from 475 to 505 by computer safe?
Discussion in 'Ask An Owner Operator' started by John Trollenski, Jan 9, 2016.
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That particular bump won't hurt the motor, but you might as well just buy a 505 to start with then nothing can get screwed up in the ecm
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Shouldn't be an issue to bump to 505 but if your buying new why not just get the 505 in the first place.
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Is it an increase in power throughout every gear or is it just an overall fuel surge or a turbo boost or what?
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All it does is change the way the ecm tells the motor to run, mostly the amount of fuel injected to produce more horsepower. The torque on the 505 is the same as the 475. The motor doesn't care what gear you're in, it's either set to produce 505 hp or it isnt. The dealer will charge something (I've heard 1,500) to flash the ecm, so you might as well buy what you want in the first place
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The number to check is the torque. Find out what max torque would be on the "turned up" engine. Then verify clutch, Trans, Drive shafts, and Diffs are all rated to handle the torque.
My current truck has an ISX which Cummins says is o.k. to turn up. however the max torque from the reprogramming would be higher than the max torque rating of my transmission.Dominick253 and AModelCat Thank this. -
Well I haul maximum which is 80,000 and I go up and down mountains a lot. This question was raised because I was hoping that the more HP means more torque as well, but as I see here some say that torque difference is none from 475 to 505.
Now, is it worth getting a 505 if I am hauling maximum and going on mountains a lot?
And yes I am looking to improve power in every gear OR whichever helps with hauling better while minimizing problems with my truck.
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I'll be sure to make sure they are all rated to handle the torque. Thanks for the advice. Much appreciated! -
I think what the sales guy meant about getting it from factory is so that the truck can be spec'd to handle those power levels. Its not uncommon for larger companies to order castrated trucks and lighter duty transmissions and axles. Although the engine can handle the higher output, the lighter spec'd powertrain can't. All it would take is to look up the specs on your powertrain to determine if it'll hold up.
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