One of those days,.....

Discussion in 'Flatbed Trucking Forum' started by Hurst, May 10, 2016.

  1. spyder7723

    spyder7723 Road Train Member

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    And i bet hurst never let's another guy drive equipment up. It's best to load these yourself. Too many halfass equipment operators freeze up.

    That 963 is just a newer slightly larger version of the 951 i got. Back when my dad actually used our equipment for work we moved it on an old 40 inch height stepdeck with a home made 3 ft dovetail and 4 ft steel ramps. A MUCH steeper incline than you got with those ramps and lower deck. If you got scared and let off the throttle at the top it would start to slide and rotate all the way down. It's definitely a nerve wracking feeling when you get close to the fulcrum point and the front half of the machine is sticking straight out several feet in the air. But you gotta stay with it till it drops down or bad things happen.

    Also, you may want to start carrying a couple 2x12 boards to put on the new ramps to add in some traction for those steel tracks.
     
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  3. Hurst

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    I have the HD Ramps kit. They are based out of Wi I think. I bought mine through Superior Trailer sales in Ok.

    Mine was a DIY kit. The rear deck plates for the ramps was bolted to the rear plate. After developing some cracks.. I had it repaired and welded to the rear plate. It still flexed a little bit with heavy machines. I had been meaning to get some metal work done and reinforce the rear plate underneath. Now I have no choice.

    The weak link was not the ramps.. but where and how it attached to the trailer.

    Hurst
     
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    The ramps themselves have strips welded across so tracked machine never slip.

    But yeah.. exactly how you described it. Once you start coming up and hit that point where you pivot.. you have to have conviction and continue with out stopping or something like this could/will happen.

    And yes.. going to be more assertive when it comes to loading machines on my ramps. Saving the pics on my phone for explanitory reasons.

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  5. spyder7723

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    Just insist you load it yourself. Don't let them talk you out of it. If you haven't ran a lot of tracked equipment you are welcome to come down and play on mine for an afternoon to get a feel for it.
     
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    I had a Ravens 48 foot covered wagon on it's aluminum twin frame under the wood/aluminum deck. I distinctly recall the manual that came with the brand new trailer that was going to be mine for 7 months more or less. Inside that manual stated very clearly that I could put 52,000 pounds of Steel coil over 20 feet but not less than 20 feet of length anywhere on that deck.

    Since I had in mind to have it belly loaded just so centered on the center marker side lights it needed to be perfect. Broke out the big measuring tape for this one. 10 feet this way and ten feet and change that way. Now you tell me how delicate that large 30 ton forklift was able to do nudge that coil to 10 feet and smaller change on both ends when I asked him to.

    20 4 inch straps and 20 Chains later I had me a load to be scared of. The pressure flattened out the deck Usually it had a curve in it. This was one of the few times it completely flattened the deck out.

    I had memories of a steel fontaine that failed in Jane Lew West Virginia to a O/O running a B Model Sleeper Mack under loadings that were way above 80K and over size, over length to boot. If you can understand what it takes for frame rails about yea thick and so high to fail below the deck, you can maybe understand the pressures it requires.

    Scaled perfect at 80K on half tanks of fuel and 400 miles to go from Gary Indiana.

    I won't be doing that again, Normal 30 mph flyover ramps 100 feet above the earth required a walking speed below 4 mph to ease it around to prevent tipping over.
     
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    At least it was an even break and the machine didn't shift and slide off. Insurance is getting your tailer fixed, you have another and are rolling. Sounds lucky to me.
     
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  9. Hurst

    Hurst Registered Member

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    I've got over 15 yrs experience on virtually every machine in construction except cranes.. and only because I was never with a company that owned any. Finish grade loader and dozer operator. Did sewer and water main for better part of 12 yrs. Ran my own crew for 8. Demolition, clearing, building pads, roads, parkng lots, major excavations. Pans, scrapers.. you name it. I can even run the old link belt excavators with the air over hydrualic controls before the electronics were used. I was the only one who could work the beast.

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    Hurst Registered Member

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    I've been offered one several times. Permits and time constraints dont work well with my sleep schedule. Also did some rgn over the summer last year. No interest. Mad respect for you guys that do regular rgn work. Especially a mechaninlcal neck like that one... definitely not for me. I prefer the simplicity of my step.

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  11. daf105paccar

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    For the ramps,i wouldn't use wood for traction but long rubber mats
     
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