Allowing companies to monitor your cellphone usage.

Discussion in 'Experienced Truckers' Advice' started by tscottme, Jun 4, 2016.

  1. Gunner75

    Gunner75 Road Train Member

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    I see several individuals who i feel would be totally fine with complete government control, and would gladly turn in their own mothers for violating a petty rule.



    In the end it's rules like these that assist in removing our rights on the roads. The govt's and insurance companies push these companies to have these rules, then when they aren't satisfied, they push for more rules. My company doesn't want us texting while driving, but we can talk all we want so long as is hands free. I need to be able to speak with my wife and kids at
    Feel how you will, but your own post proves my point
     
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  3. pattyj

    pattyj Road Train Member

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    WM has had many accidents and im pretty sure that has to do with why they are getting more stricter.The more accidents companies have the more policies they have.
     
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    While i understand you dont think they are connected, you are wrong. First, speed limits have nothing to do with safety. Never did. And beyond that, your comparison of a machinist and a driver proves that you dont even understand the issue. You said swift allows 60 min of use, no more than 10 at a time, but all drivers have proven that tech is dangerous? Conflict much? You even site "after driver negotiations" the point is, there is a only a restriction because the company said so. And it would be more intrusive without "negotiations" so during the next round, when they claim safety dictates the full removel of any personally owned tech, as you may be tempted to cheat.... then what? Its a logical argument, you dont bring your phone to the drill press with you, dont bring it in the truck.
     
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  5. Gr1zzly

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    If it's a company phone, fine by me, happy to have it over.

    My personal phone is just that, personal. Good thing I have no intentions of driving for Wally.

    But I have to wonder, how much of your privacy are you willing to give up? If they slip the phone past, then perhaps it's time for 24/7 behavior, performance, health, sleep and the list goes on and on and on.

    Give them an inch, they'll take a mile...or more.
     
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  6. freebeertomorrow

    freebeertomorrow Heavy Load Member

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    those of you angry at these guidelines are misdirecting your anger. there would not be said rules if drivers hadn't messed up in the first place. be angry with dumb drivers, don't be angry with those in compliance of rules made at the hand of someone else's stupidity.

    comparing government control to phone record review? really? lol get the #### out of here.
     
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  7. Aaabbbccc

    Aaabbbccc Light Load Member

    Never said swift.
    Conflict. More like a compromise between free usage and no use at all.
    If your company were to allow driving only during daylight hours, and could justify it by safety records, isn't it their " right" to do so? If they feel they can make it work financially, what's to keep them from doing it? Don't like it? I think you know the answer.
     
  8. alghazi

    alghazi Road Train Member

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    Ah the old "if you aren't doing anything wrong, what's the problem with it" argument.

    This is the typical response when someone in authority wishes to stick his nose where it doesn't belong.
     
  9. Salad

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    Don't like a policy, go somewhere else. It's really that simple. If you need the money deal with it, most people don't want to stay on the phone all day anyways.
     
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  10. Gr1zzly

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    I'm not angry. I'm merely stating my position. What legal precedent do companies have for wanting to look at your personal phone if it is solely used for the employees own purposes? They don't pay for it, the name of their company is no where on it, hence, they have no right to request it. However, by allowing the company access, you are giving them a free pass to everything on your phone. Private text conversations with your significant other (and mistress if you happen to have one), pictures, etc and so on. What happens if they find something in there they don't like, or you don't want them to know. Medical issues, family issues and other things which are none of their business. What's to stop someone from using that information against you?

    I take my privacy very seriously. What's my business is mine. I don't go digging around in other people's back yard's sticking my nose in their business, they can stay the hell out of mine.

    However, if people allow this to continue happening, then the company(s) may get bolder and perhaps take it further. How about 24 / 7 monitoring of the truck with various camera's? Do we give in to this as well, being monitored all the time? Would you let the company in your home to search it because one of the other dumb drivers takes things off his rig and takes it home? "This person stole company property, all of our other drivers are doing it as well." Are we all to be branded with the same iron?

    One size does not fit all. It would seem the government and companies want us to conform to this particular way of thinking.

    If some wish to be cattle and corralled all in to one pen, then do so. I enjoy my freedoms a little too much to follow that path or compromise those freedoms which many men and women fought and died for.

    Is it just me, or does this conversation remind anyone of the Borg - "Freedom is irrelevant. Self-determination is irrelevant. You must comply." :rolleyes:
     
  11. Aaabbbccc

    Aaabbbccc Light Load Member

    if you had read my earlier post, you would see the company got from me a redacted ,printed copy of cell phone company records. Time/date of call, length of call only, no other information. They did not and will not get my physical phone without a court order.
     
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