OOIDA Vs. FMCSA 2016

The elog guys are way better planers .
like planing a half hour break in the middle of the fuel island.
And my favorite planing how to piss in a bottle When their driving down the road because if they take a 10 min restroom break like a human they will end up 10 miles short of getting to the receiver before their clock runs out.

 

#### right, how can you plan something with so many idiots on the road? 9 times out of 10, I15 gets a standstill for hours, cause some party boy was driving impaired from Las Vegas and ended up on the wrong way. How can you plan that? How can you plan driving around NYC,LA? I see people sleeping on shoulders, cause computer said so. This job has so many reasons to #### on your plans. Those E-Log planers are driving dedicated 400 miles a day from WH to WH somewhere in Kansas and are smart about it. If you ever been to LA,NY and east coast major cities in general you would never write about "better planing" cause it is complete BS.

 

Its not about cheating on paper logs. For me its about the fact I own my truck. I run my business. We have rules and regulations im more than ok with. But to tell me I must invest my money into a piece of equipment that i see no monetary gains from and will not improve my personal safety being myself in my truck. Why in the world would i make that investment? I try to work smart, not stuiped. If i wanted a to spend money that frivolous Id by a boat

 

You might as well take the humans out of the 18 wheeler and make them robots.

That will eliminate ALL of this froufrou... /sarc.

Hours of service is a needful thing. Structure is good. But when you throw a computer into the truck, add qualcomm with latitude and longitude to zulu time as posted to the atomic second by the US Navy in DC then throw in the real time cameras installed for use of DIspatch watching you make faces... and more intrusive losses of privacy and on and on and on.

Im glad I got out the road before these things really started to bite. It would slow the trucks which is solved by hiring immigrants now you can pay two or three of them .20 a mile tell em never you mind that computer telling you how long you can drive or stop... and add more trucks everyone is happy making 1500 miles a week when previous to all that people were rolling 2400 miles a week average as a single.

IF Uncle Sam wants to give us a 10 hour work day, then he needs to increase the wages and rates to support same so that everyone will continue to make a living driving 1000 miles a week. It's silly. It will show up in the US Economy when the Nation starts to slide downwards as productivity falls off.

There is however... one rule that replaces hours of service in entire form. War. If truckers are called into Federal Service to run war material, you toss the logs and run until you pass out, wake up and keep going. I wonder how Uncle Sam will like to see all of his trucks sitting still because the darn comptuers are beeping, no hours.

 

Commercial pilots have somewhat similar types of restrictions of their hours. They are allowed X amount of flying hours per month.
However, if they do not have sufficient hours to complete the flight, they don't even start the trip. If in the middle of a multi stop flight, something happens to delay the remainder of the flight, the plane sits until another pilot with hours is made available.
Now, put this forward towards truck drivers. If the federal laws for truck drivers were as strickly enforced as are for pilots, a lot of freight would be sitting. As a shipper, you had better have the shipment ready to load when you arrange for the truck to be there, otherwise it will sit. If the receiver can't receive it at the scheduled delivery time, then Humongous detention fines will be levied.
Installation of a Federal Database for all shipments in the US, so as to track when loaded, length of haul and when delivered. That way the goverenment can enforce the hours of service and stop all the "OutLaw" truckers out there killing thosand's of people.
Of course this will put all those truck wreck lawyers out of business and we can't have that. So, we are back to the present system which screws the driver, makes the politicians look good. and fills the coffers of the local/state governments.

 

My god your only point its outlaw truckers your worried about. The reason they will never treat us trucks like airplanes is they would have to pay more. So be it im a outlaw trucker. I run under my hours, hardly even come close to going over hours. But from your statments and lack of understanding the situation come back when you have more skin in the game. My family eats from my one truck operation. You cut throat scabs that wanna be poverty rich for a few years and not concerned about a life long established business. Keep doing what you are. In the long run alot of men and women with morals about how they are treated and have the testicular fortitude will survive and continue. Like my last 3 generations of family. Im the 4th.

 

Surely you didn't take my post seriously?
I was just pointing out how ridiculous the regulators are. They have no idea what they are trying to regulate.
And, it's the news media who have labeled all truck drivers as "OUTLAW" truckers.
And at almost every comercial break on TV, there is a lawyer advertising about getting big payday's from those "BIG TRUCK" companies.
And my family has been griving trucks since WWII, so i know a few thing's myself.

 

Only way to change that eld law is to force everyone to do it. Everyone. . No exceptions. .. maybe then we'll have the nads to actually do something about it and stop just ranting on truckers report.

 

If and it is a big "IF" a UPS(Parcel) happens(very, very rare) to run out of hours on the road, the freight will "sit" until the company brings another driver out to bring the truck in. But as I said, this is a rare occurence. I know one UPS that ran out of hours within 45 minutes from his home terminal and the truck, freight and him sit until they brought another driver out to bring the truck in. This driver worked out of a UPS location that pays the feeder drivers by the hour and this dispels what some claim that you have to log what you get paid for, because this driver that ran out of hours, his pay went right on.

 

I've got to point out this, we as an industry have yet to be recognized as a skilled trade, while commercial pilots are. If we are to be treated with the same regulations at some unreasonable level (as in the med card and the examiner making determination of the person based on personal attitudes and not the regulations) shouldn't we be considered skilled trades as a commercial pilot in every aspect of the profession except training?