Log Book Midnight Miles

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  1. ganja24

    ganja24 Bobtail Member

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    Soon I am starting a job paid by miles, My work day starts 8pm driving 150 miles into midnight jotted on paper doing a switch and driving back 150 miles. Do I add both 150+150= 300 miles even if they are logged in 2 different days to get total miles for my shift? Please correct me if this is the wrong method. Sorry newbie question and new career.
     
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  3. not4hire

    not4hire Road Train Member

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    Are you staying within the 160 km radius of your home terminal, i.e., "short haul" exemption?

    "KM/Miles Driven Today" is the distance driven during your work shift in the 24-hour period covered by your logs (or the company's records if staying within the 160 km radius). The 24-hour period is typically midnight to midnight, but can be any 24-hour period as determined by the carrier. Therefore, if your shift goes through midnight your distance driven will be recorded on two separate logs or records.

    Your company may request that you record it in one block for payroll purposes on an internal sheet, but your logs or driving record should show it appropriately for each day.

    So, if you worked Monday to Friday only and started your work week Monday evening and finished Friday morning your driving distance would look like this:

    Mon - 150 m (night only)
    Tue, Wed, Thu - 300 m (150 from morning and 150 from night)
    Fri - 150 m (morning only)

     
  4. ganja24

    ganja24 Bobtail Member

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    My concern is payroll how i would calculate miles for 2 separate logs when they get split into 2 days after midnight. I think I understand I total the miles for the whole shift regardless midnight on internal company papers for payroll. But l will have 2 separate logs for 2 days. Does that sound right?
     
  5. not4hire

    not4hire Road Train Member

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    Yes; payroll mileage is your end-of-shift minus your start-of-shift, and logs are whatever miles you drove midnight-to-midnight regardless of the number of shifts.
     
  6. ganja24

    ganja24 Bobtail Member

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    Understood , Thank you for explaining. Have a great day bro!
     
  7. rabbiporkchop

    rabbiporkchop Road Train Member

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    You can work your logbook a different way than many people. You can start your log at 12 noon on one day and finish it at 12 noon the next day and have two different dates on the top of your log so your single shift fits on a single page which would make it much easier. When I did linehaul for R&L Carriers years ago that's how we did it.
     
  8. not4hire

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    Yes, that would make it easier for this driver, but that is at the carrier's discretion, not the driver's. If he is the only driver, or if all drivers are on the same approximate schedule, then they might do that. Otherwise he's stuck with midnight-to-midnight.

    day, in respect of a driver, means a 24-hour period that begins at the hour designated by the motor carrier for the duration of the driver’s cycle.

    http://laws-lois.justice.gc.ca/eng/regulations/SOR-2005-313/page-1.html#h-1
     
  9. ganja24

    ganja24 Bobtail Member

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    To have everything on 1 page the Log Book has to be noon to noon, correct?
    My company has midnight to midnight which will require 2 day logging.
     
  10. upnorthwpg

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    Ask them if you can switch to a noon to noon cycle. Makes it way easier. You can change a midnight/midnight log by hand, but the whole month has to be switched.
     
  11. not4hire

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    There is no set time-frame for the use of a modified start time. As noted in Post #7, the driver has to use the prescribed start time for the duration of the Cycle they are on. Therefore, they could use it for as little as until the next reset, or "forever" if they don't reset.
     
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