Liquid Totes And Tanker Endorsement

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  1. MACK E-6

    MACK E-6 Moderator Staff Member

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    You need the double right turn lane endorsement. :p

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  3. MACK E-6

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    .....Which is 119 gallons for a portable tank, IIRC.
     
  4. ChaoSS

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    Correct, with an aggregate of 1000 gallons, I believe. So just one or two won't require the endorsement.
     
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  5. MACK E-6

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    That part I didn't know. I thought it was only one.

    Could be though. Four of those on a trailer have no problem letting you know they're back there.
     
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  6. ChaoSS

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    You know, I've always stayed out of the right turn threads because i would just cause trouble. But I wish I had video of the left turn I had to take at this one place.... Tractor on the line between the middle and outside turn lane, load head sweep in there outer lane, trailer axles in the inside lane, tail sweep back out in the middle lane, and cars in all three lanes trying to get around me.

    Once you start going oversized, you just learn to own those lanes and get through that turn. Not sure what endorsement i need for that, though.
     
  7. x1Heavy

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    I never really have been bothered with liquids in the van or reefer trailer as a tanker by police or DOT. To them it's so many carboys of fluid or a half million dollars worth of barrels filled with agricultural chemicals for Des Moines Iowa.

    It IS a tanker when you pick up a box filled with liquid in bottles, barrels, carboys etc. and you treat it as a tanker.

    Just don't have a pure tanker trailer back there, therfore it's not a tanker.
     
  8. Lepton1

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    That strawberry purée won't slosh and surge until the fourth daiquiri.
     
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  9. Bob Dobalina

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    Correct. Most typical "IBC" totes have a capacity of 275 gallons, so you'd need 4 full ones of those before the endorsement is technically required.
     
  10. ChaoSS

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    Yeah, the rules used to be that a tank over a thousand pounds required the tank endorsement. Smaller tanks, like having a 500 gallon water tank on a trailer to spray something out wouldn't require the endorsement.

    I've heard that there were companies that went and separated tanks into multiple large tanks, say 900 gallons each, to avoid needing the endorsement. Seems stupid to me, but whatever. So as a result of that, or perhaps just because they felt the totes should require the endorsement, they changed the rules. It still requires an aggregate of 1000 gallons, but now that can be in bulk containers rather than just one large tank.

    Honestly, I've pulled upwards of 2000 gallons in 55 gallon drums of coolant, and never noticed any surge. Might have something to do with how full they fill them though.
     
  11. Blackshack46

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    55 gallondrums do not fall into the N endorsement. The invidual tanks must be 119 gallons by themselves and more than 1000 gallons as a whole before the N endorsement comes out.
     
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