Salary over $1000 per week guaranteed?

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  1. Outdoorsman

    Outdoorsman Light Load Member

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    I have a friend that has done van, reefer, flatbed, heavy haul, heavy equipment, and glass... with at least a dozen different companies - over the past 5 years. He's had one problem or another with most of them - and moved on - but rarely made that much.

    I think there are some drivers who have those good paying jobs, who think everyone could / should have them... but the reality is that most drivers stay out for 2-3 weeks and get 2-3 days at home - and still don't make that.

    I made $55k last year, get 3 weekend days (every 2 weeks), and 6 weekend days every month... minimum.
    No, it's not the most someone could make - but it's not the worst either. I'm a company driver, I live 1/2 hr. from the terminal, I don't take the truck home, the company has an excellent garage / service department. I drive a 2016 Freightliner. I get treated with respect, and I like the people at the company, including my dispatcher... and management genuinely cares about the drivers.

    It's not all about money - but I don't want to sell myself short, if there's something else out there that can beat what I've got. I'm still looking.
     
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  3. De Trucker

    De Trucker Medium Load Member

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    As brought up before LTL companies pay "detention" and mileage pay. Plus you're home everyday. If you have a layover you're in a hotel.

    What I'm trying to say with salary pay is the longer you're working(sitting or driving) the worse that pay is vs hours worked. You need to calculate your on duty time with your compensation. Not just miles. Calculating just how much miles you drive isn't telling the whole story.

    For example you drive 2200 miles a week. If you're putting in 60 hours on duty time you're making $12 or so an hour considering OT after 8 hours.

    Getting a gig that pays your miles and detention/delay pay minimizes the negative impact waiting has on your average pay rate.

    I would never opt for salary pay in trucking.
     
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  4. Outdoorsman

    Outdoorsman Light Load Member

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    So... what you're saying is, every driver who gets paid per mile, and spends 2-3 weeks in a truck, should calculate the total time in the truck - including Off-duty and Sleeper during a 14 hour day!? I mean, it sounds like you're including all time in a local drivers job @ 60 hrs per week, right?

    If every driver used your math, they should all quit and work for WalMart or McDonalds, since they'd have to base their time on 70 hrs. per week... and no OT.

    My math is based on the fact that drivers don't get paid to sit around (aside from the minimal pay for detention / layover - and that's usually not very much). So... that leaves me with either pay per day $181, or pay per mile @ .45 / mile... or $1000 per week.

    If I'm not including Sleeper / Off duty, I make about $19 / hr. (2200 miles = 44 hours + 8 hrs. on duty in 5.5 days).

    In the end, it doesn't matter how you calculate it - it all comes down to how much you make after taxes / deductions / insurance, etc... and whether that's enough for you or not?!

    It would be nice if drivers got paid what they're worth, everywhere - and it was all equitable, fair and equal... but that's some kind of fantasy world there!
     
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  5. De Trucker

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    Reread my post. I said ON DUTY. If you waited 3 hours to get loaded that is on duty and you need to take that into account into your average rate of compensation. Not just how many miles you drive. Anything other than your 10 hour off duty or 30 min break needs to be accounted for.

    As for LTL companies I'm talking linehaul. They will get paid by miles and hourly for any delays. Some will even pay hourly ehen you're stuck in traffic.

    Linehaul drivers are similar to regional except they don't sleep in a truck. They either sleep at a hotel or go out and come back every day and sleep in their own home.
    They usually run doubles although some like USF Holland and Dayton freight primarily run vans.
    Most companies are all drop and hook with the exception of a few where you have to work docks handling freight with a forklift. But if you work the dock you are paid hourly for it on top of the miles driven.
     
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  6. Outdoorsman

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    I read it, and I get it... but I have a sleeper in the truck, and I don't touch freight... I also don't have to babysit the process / watch it at the dock, for the majority of my loads. When I bump the dock, I literally go into the Sleeper and wait for someone to bring the bills to me - or tell me I'm loaded / unloaded and pick up the paperwork at the office. So, even if it takes them 4 hours to load / unload - I'm not On Duty... if I'm literally in the Sleeper. If you're in a day cab, you're in the seat, and there is no sleeper.

    Anyway - I get it. But none of this answers my OP... and it seems everyone wants to tell me how to make more money - but can't provide me with another company that can guarantee more that $1000 AND guarantee 48 hrs. home every weekend.

    Although there are other ways to make more money - or get home every day (as you and others have mentioned)... it's obvious that there IS NOT another company ANYWHERE that can beat what I already have, and guarantee it.

    If there are so many more ways to make more money - why don't any companies offer better guarantees than I'm getting - with a smaller, less known company?
     
  7. De Trucker

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    My point was to try and get you to look at it in a different way and see the negatives of salary pay and bring to your attention companies that are a better deal that you are probably qualified to work for.

    But if that guarantee is the most important thing to you and you are more than happy with your job, then you have yourself the best job you can ask for. So hang on to it.
     
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  8. Outdoorsman

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    Thanks for trying to enlighten me / others, regarding ppm vs. salary. Trust me, I've considered every scenario / situation, between the two. The majority of drivers I've talked to, feel the same way you do about salary... including some in my company that would never take a salary... and average a lot more per week (but those drivers are at top rate, making .43 per mile and handle freight).

    I find more benefits in a salary, getting a guaranteed wage every week - regardless of what I do - and not just being paid when I drive (mainly). 2200 miles per week, detention / lay-over, wouldn't pay as much. I sit too much, with this company, because I'm strictly no-touch - and the bulk of their business is in tire / box unloads.

    Recruiters lie - companies lie - they tell you all about the miles you'll make, the home time you'll get, the benefits of their company... and when you get there - you find that it's nothing they said it would be (low miles, lack of home time, poor management, bad dispatchers, lack of concern / consideration for their drivers, etc.). So, a guaranteed wage and home time, verified by other drivers and employees, is a place to start. It tells me, the company is reputable, honest, and concerned about their drivers... which is what I have here.

    At this point, I'm looking around... but haven't found anything better, yet.
     
  9. BIF MALIBU

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    as these companies use the rail for long haul and new drivers are are sitting on the dock during the day and running short miles at night the LTL type work makes alot of sense.
    the big ATA companies are avoiding hourly pay by training and churning drivers
     
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  10. wsyrob

    wsyrob Trucker Forum STAFF Staff Member

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    My deal at Superior isn't salary but the layover pay acts as a guarantee. We get $18.50 an hour anytime we sit away from our home terminal for more than 14 hours up to 10 per day. That's $165 per day guaranteed.

    You are either rolling loaded at .52, empty at .42 or being paid hourly loading or unloading. I don't get every weekend off but get every one that I ask for. Last year I took close to 150 days off and grossed 64k.

    These are 24 hours at home. A 34 hour reset or even 40 hours off is not a weekend off
     
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  11. Zigzag777

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    So after reading this entire thread Outdoorsman is asking if he could beat his current position? The answer seems quite clear for him, and it is loud and clear to me, NO. Whether he wants assurances from us, or he is bragging a bit, the answer to him, is still the same, NO! Many have given their opinions, and he is steadfast in his response, for every opinion, he seems to have an objection, and that's ok. But let's stop beating a dead horse, Outdoorsman - you have the best job for you! Yes you could make more, but money isn't everything. Depending on how you slice it, he has great hourly rate, or not. He's driving good equipment, and no worries if he breaks down - his salary is the same, but others also have good equipment too, and may or may not make more money, but don't have consistent home time every week. Maybe in the future he will get a raise, or maybe not. His company probably appreciates, that they can budget his position into the future, and to some bean counters that's worth its weight in gold. I've known more than a few who had similar positions with a captive driver working for a company who ran their own fleet, and BOOM, the a bean counter showed up on scene, by merger or buyout, and in an instant the company fleet dissolved, in favor of a low ballin' mega, that will do the job for half. That's how the mega's, became megas.

    So to Outdoorsman, I ask in all sincerity, why did you ask on here, in the first place? You already had the answer. I repeat: You have the best job for you @ this point in time.
     
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