Opinion about job offer

Discussion in 'Questions From New Drivers' started by Evie3, May 4, 2017.

  1. x1Heavy

    x1Heavy Road Train Member

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    I tell you a small secret.

    It's not worth anything in today's over governed speed limited trucks with cameras and 5 nannies viewing you in real time as you drive. But it goes like this.

    Not necessarily Estes but usually a local LTL trailer truck or even a set of doubles on the tollroad knows where the smokies were at every day and night. Shift changes and common radar spots etc. If the truckers took off and hoofed it down a while at 90 plus, you were right there with them. When they slowed up to do showboat legal like... you did the same. Shrugs. Gets you across the midwest in pretty good time. Maybe make a couple hours early to finish your day. Just be sure to log it the usual time in the old paper logs =)
     
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  3. FireLotus

    FireLotus Light Load Member

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    Okay, I just need to jump,in..
    First, so glad to hear of your sons recovery..

    I am recruiter/staffing agent and my firm does have several truck companies that we recruiter and staff for.

    First, about job fairs... I do a lot of job fairs as a Recruiter and Staffing agent... They are legit and it is not uncommon for a company to have one or more of their hiring managers there..

    Secondly, I have two companies I recruit and staff for that art LTL and operate much like you stated.. they prefer to hire drivers with CDL truck driving experience along with Forklift certification.. however they are willing to hire a trier with CDL experience and they will get him Forklift certified..

    Next, you said your son ran tanker, I don't know what what kind of tanker experience he has, but, some tanker accounts do not do as much backing.. some do.. in fact backing into some chemical plants is tricker than many docks... anyway my point is, they may be starting him as the warehouse/driver/yard jockey first for a couple reasons... first get him Forklift certified and some experience with the forklift, also being a yard jockey will give him good practice in backing up trailers.... as some who has pulled, flatbeds, tankers, refers and vans... there is a difference...for the most part the same, but for the visuals are different... unloaded flatbed vs unloaded trailer.. lol..

    You could have your son talk to a few of the drivers there.. they will give you the scoop...
     
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  4. Evie3

    Evie3 Light Load Member

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    I want to thank you and everyone else who replied to this again. Even though I don't know all of you personally, the support was very reassuring. My son accepted the position, shook the terminal manager's hand, peed it a cup and ran around like a crazy person getting his DOT physical done again, getting a new reading from his cpap card, etc (it was done in February but they are made him do it again). The terminal manager basically said that the job would train him on the whole industry and if he performs really well and wants a change in 6 months, he can stay with them or move somewhere else and anyone would hire him.

    The new job description that was emailed to him is for a local/regional driver. Evidently the yard jockey part would be here or there, occasionally. The forklift and yard jockey work would be paid hourly and the driving will be mileage. I don't know how they keep track of the different types of labor, but I'm sure they have a system. And the person who commented about the backing was right, the gentleman who drove around with my son for a week during his tanker training hardly let him drive at all, even on the highway. And to make matters worse, the trainer had an automatic truck. It was relevant because it was a tanker, but my son didn't get to experience the road with a manual transmission until he had to rent a car and drive down south to pick up his "junker." All of the real training my son had was during the 2 months or so that he was driving the tanker truck himself. And he says that his backing still leaves a lot to be desired and he needs more practice.

    Honestly, based on what I've read here and elsewhere, I strongly suspect that given his limited work history (he has a 10 year gap in employment), if he had applied to one of their jobs online, his application would have been auto-filtered out and they would probably never have even looked at it, much less contacted him. It was just that he showed up physically and had a long conversation with the terminal manager and something about my son and the way he expressed himself made the difference. He does have a great attitude, and in my life experience, attitude is the single most important aspect of success or failure at work. And he really wants to work hard and save up so he can find the right girl and start a family of his own. I think that is also something that the terminal manager could relate to.

    He is still planning to go to the job fair and I will circle back when I find out why UPS and Fedex Freight are putting in an appearance. In the unlikely event that they were actually willing to offer him something better, he said he would really have to think about it, because it seems like the job he is taking now has so much potential in the learning department. I personally also think that sometimes the most important thing is to get into the right company, even if your first job pays a little less.

    During his time on the road my son told me he ran into a lot of really interesting people. My thanks again to all of you in the trucking community for your friendship and support.
     
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  5. G13Tomcat

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    Evie, i wish you and your son nothing but the best. As you heard above, getting a foot in the door with Estes is a blessing many people do not even get. (including myself!) God bless you both, and PLEASE keep us posted. This is a miracle you all deserve.

    ps: you are correct; an online application probably WOULD have been filtered out. He must have the charisma and wherewithal they are looking for. You are blessed. I truly wish you both the best. Message me if you have any questions not answered here, at your disposal. Off to work myself in a bit; I do the vampire shift hauling tanks / asphalt myself~!
     
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  6. x1Heavy

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    Backing a tanker or even taking a gas waste liquid tanker into a auction house, I had to account for a 1 inch gas line near the roof top that cleared my mack and it's trailer by about a inch if I steered just so to get that human railing away from it. It's particular to auction in Little Rock ADESA where I was a top temp and crew boss at times in truck sales. But you not only have to be looking low you have to look high too with tankers.

    Tanker drivers overall are better. IMHO. Im not saying it for me. But running a tanker requires one simple test, shifting and moving with a cup of coffee without a lid in the cab floor without spilling. If you can do that, you can do a tanker.
     
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  7. x1Heavy

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    I am happy to hear the good news.

    Who knows I think there might be a bright future here. Now he has to be nice to everyone at the work place no matter how bad it is given a terrible situation that pops up now and then. Office management in particular have to be smoozed and assured that you are on the job and there is no problem for them.

    I can go on, but I suspect a few of my thousands of posts here contain a story here and there versus the suits sometimes.

    Keep us posted now and then how it goes. It's really important for your boy to (Man, but boy to me see?) to behave and be good worker with cheerful and good morale the first year. Once he makes that long he will discover that things get better and better as the years and seasons of his life move along.
     
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  8. G13Tomcat

    G13Tomcat Road Train Member

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    True that... i was trained with McD's coffee myself. VERY challenging. Six years later, knock on wood, it's like slicing home made butter with a knife. It's an acquired skill, unexplainable for the most part. Those of us that CAN..... a rare breed, similar to the H/H guys!!
     
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  9. sevenmph

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    I agree. I think he is being offered a great opportunity.
     
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  10. FireLotus

    FireLotus Light Load Member

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    Yeah.. I agree with you.. when I pulled tanker hauling chlorine I backed up into loading bays and delivery bays that were tight.. and as you line up the top.

    However, when I decided to quit tanker and was going for a local gig pulling van.. they questioned if I thought I could back a trailer.... and he said well we back into docks and tanks just pull up to load to load and unload...
    I said some do, but I hand to back in our loading bay, and most of our deliveries I had backing too... he gave me a backing test and I did get the job... it was an easy part time gig...
     
  11. tscottme

    tscottme Road Train Member

    The attention from the Estes manager means a lot. That company has so many opportunities, but the chance to get on with Linehaul is the top of the mountain for most drivers. Good money, regular schedule sleep at home, good benefits. Being just an application at FedEx or UPS compared to being a name and a story at Estes with a manager seems to me like a package with a bow on top. With your son's gap in employment and limited experience I would not be surprised if his application sits a long time with FedEx & UPS. I would likely leave my 18 year job with my employer to have that opportunity with Estes.
     
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