Fifth wheel height and overweight on drives

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  1. Pedigreed Bulldog

    Pedigreed Bulldog Road Train Member

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    Not true. Illinois, straight from the ILCS:

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    "...34,000 pounds on a tandem axle with no axle within the tandem exceeding 20,000 pounds;..."

    In other words, your axles can be 14K/20K for 34K total and you're perfectly legal in Illinois.
     
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  3. Pedigreed Bulldog

    Pedigreed Bulldog Road Train Member

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    Well then after you get the steer/drive balance corrected by moving the 5th wheel, start looking into how much the 5th wheel needs to be raised to shift another 1000# or so to the trailer. Shouldn't take much.
     
  4. 77fib77

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    It's not my truck. If sliding forward is all I have to do. I'll be fine with it

    I was googling it seems like fifth wheel height around 51" is ideal.

    A load I did last week was legal(at the cat scale), but it was a different trailer.
     
  5. ErieMcDreary

    ErieMcDreary Medium Load Member

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    I'm a bit cornfused?? What is the 2nd platform, and why is it only 7140#? I get the steers on #1, and the trailer on #4, but why the 20,000# difference in #2 and #3? Is this not a standard 5 axle configuration?
     
  6. mustang190

    mustang190 Road Train Member

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    Or slide the seat forward a couple of notches.
     
  7. ChicagoJohn

    ChicagoJohn Road Train Member

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    Now I have a different issue. I just went from a 47" fifth wheel to a 51" fifth wheel and I am constantly over on my drives now. I scale right at 12,000 on steers, but usually 35ish on my drives grossing 79,000. I never had this issue when I was at 47". I can't figure it out for the life of me.

    Only thing I've done is raise the fifth wheel (higher pedastool, not tubing) and I added a hydropak. I used to be able to scale 46,500 and be legal.
     
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  8. Bakerman

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    How about just haul lighter stuff?
     
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  9. crb

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    You would think raising it would put more weight on trailer.
     
  10. Dave_in_AZ

    Dave_in_AZ Road Train Member

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    Not all of us can be a well paid LTL hauler.
     
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  11. ChicagoJohn

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    I thought exactly the same thing. I'm thinking of going back to the 47" actually, but the higher pedastool helps with heel, so I don't really know what to do.
     
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