They got the control they wanted. Now they get to pick and choose who has to comply. Agriculture isn't really in the scope of the field they want to level so they'll get to slide.
Again,it just shines a light on how little safety is involved in this .
the FMCSA gives ag haulers a few more months to adopt ELD...
Discussion in 'ELD Forum | Questions, Answers and Reviews' started by Ristow, Nov 21, 2017.
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I like all the freight haulers answers to the issue.. "just unload them while you take your break".. it's just that easy, right? You would be ok with your $100k+ load of cattle being unloaded at some random stockyard risking extra stress and disease? There is no where near the disease controlled infrastructure in place right now for that to ever work for the amount of cattle being transported at any given time and it'll take years and millions of dollars to get to that point. Who's going to pay for all that?
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Oh, because every load of cattle is going to slaughter, right? Yeah, that's how it works..
Drive twice the miles for half the pay? No thanks. Besides, it's hard enough to fine one driver worth a #### let alone two.Last edited: Nov 22, 2017
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If they are a good hand they are in a truck of their own. Who would team on 800 mile ride? Way more of them than 2k mile rides. The whole time they are on a trailer there is no water or feed available. No room to get out of their own waste. They are loosing weight and getting sick. Packing places won't take certain symptoms. I don't know of any feed lot or producer that likes to see sick cattle coming off a trailer. It is what it is.
If it makes me a cupcake fine, your opinions of me, the job I do or how I do it don't make a rats ### to me. Your intelligence shows from the simple fact you make comments on subjects you know nothing about nor have done. The post opens with name calling and stinks to high heaven with jealousy. How #### childish is that? Grow up worry bout what your doing I will worry bout what I'm doing.Hurricane69, KAK, gunner76 and 6 others Thank this. -
Don't misunderstand me, I have no issue with with this exemption. I just think it's funny that any driver that is against the eld ruling - like myself- is labeled a dangerous outlaw that brought this on everyone else, is labeled a cupcake that can't run steady, by someone that has replied to this very thread, and is categorized as a log cheater because there is. No other reason not to embrace this encroachment...all on this forum...
and then the FMCSA themselves delay the ruling for a group with no other "fix" on the radar thereby basically admitting these guys need to falsify the logs to get the job done around the idiotic hos rules, that the eld makes impossible to hide.
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So cattle hauling seems to be a good fit for team operation if you ask me (eLogs or not, HOS rules or not), if any trips can be expected to run further than 700 miles. Factor in hotel costs into the rate for a night or two in between loads. What's so difficult about that?
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This is a positive development, as are all the dozens of requests from individual carriers (UPS for example) or industry subsets. It shines a huge bright light on the HOS regulations that the FMCSA can no longer ignore. They were hoping to just get the ELD's in place without reopening that can of worms. They were wrong. And that is going to take years of wrangling to figure out. look for proposals, counter proposals, lawsuits from all involved. And in the meantime the statistics will pile up indicating that the HOS regulations if enforced cause many more fatalities than the fictitious cr*p the Feds have been circulating for years.
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If they still don't get their way after the 90 days is up, they can always grab their guns and take over a wildlife refuge or something.
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yah i think wore out read my opening post and thought i was speaking my mind rather than referencing all the crap that anyone thats against this eld ruling gets thrown at them by the eld cheerleading squad.
or not...i mean...it's ok if a guy thinks im an a__hole and doesn't like me...it would just bother me to think someone was disliking me for thinking i was a different kind of a-hole than that which i am...
but on this ag ruling...i seriously can't see how a dot officer can write up an ag carrier for a log violation of any kind after the director of compliance and enforcement of the FMCSA said what he said. why even bother having them do a log book at all? if the concerns stem from “an incompatibility” between federal hours regs and livestockers’ operations" than it's time to address the real issues and fix it. even if the ATA crowd doesn't like it.
this seems like another case of a dept head accidentally speaking the truth.
the hos and eld is custom tailored for the mega carriers (like swift) team ops with their whopping 30cpm. and if you think this is gonna boost driver wages.......LOL!wore out Thanks this.
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