ELD Compliance, 30 Days in the Hole

It is a change in recording DRIVE time, not HOS. As long as the line 4 activities of a driver are self-reported, people will still be working 80-90 hours per week and driving past their 14.

It is also a change in retention methods. Used to be you could stick the logs in a file cabinet. 6 months later, shred them and they are gone. Or, if you chose to do so, you could scan them into a computer and save them that way...deleting after 6 months. Either way, if you were being investigated for something, the government had to come talk to you in order to get your logs. Now, most of these companies rely upon web hosting and/or cloud services, where you no longer control the data. Your data can and will be turned over without your knowledge or permission.

It also goes back to the whole "anything you say can and will be used against you". As a mostly local driver, I'm exempt from logging requirements most of the time. If I happen to hit that 9th day in 30, now ALL of my activities will be recorded until I can get back inside of the 8-days-in-30 requisite so that I can once again unplug that infernal thing. NEVER provide more information than necessary to a government agent. I don't care if my log book is perfect and up to the minute, if I'm inside the 100 air-mile radius, I have always denied its existence. It isn't required. At the roadside, I still plan on claiming the exemption even if I have the thing plugged in. My road trips are infrequent enough that even my paper log book would only show 2 or 3 (on a busy week) logged days in the current + 7 required to be carried...but I'll probably go a step farther and carry only a time card and the current day's log since most of my ventures outside of the 100 air-mile radius generally end in 11-12 hours anyway. Good luck proving I have more than 8 logged days in 30 on the side of the road with the time card showing 12 hours or less every day for the previous 7 and only the current day's log. Minimum required paperwork. Can't get in trouble for not having something that isn't required...but volunteering info can and will bite you more often than not. On those days where my name, date, start and end times, and total number of hours worked used to suffice as a record of hours worked, now they have a full-blown record of my duty staus, and as such if I don't enter in the BOL's, trailer #'s, or any of the other extra items REQUIRED on a RODS that might change several times in the day aren't properly recorded in the ELD, that's a violation until I get back to 8-in-30 again.

 

I can beat up anyone here. Send Requests to my PMs.

 

" I understand that they have probably never been expected to spend a solid 24 hours making multiple pickups on a Wednesday, for a receiver some 2000 miles away who stops unloading Saturday by noon."

I noticed this part in the op's thesis, Not what I thought elogs would help stop.
I thought elogs would only affect the driver that would run out of hours 10 miles from their home,

 

ROTFLMFAO!!! Reminds me of the time...probably 16 or 17 years ago now, and on another board elsewhere on the interweb...had a guy trolling me hard and things were escalating rapidly, so I posted a link to google maps with my house highlighted that said "When you think you're man enough..."

He never did show up. Didn't bother me too much after that, either. Gave a lot of the other guys a good laugh, though...not what they expected to see when they clicked the link.

The silly things we did when we were young & dumb...

 

For those of you keep crying about your freedom and rights ... Sorry, Article 1, Section 8, Clause 3.

When it comes to engaging in interstate commerce, you have no rights. Never did, never will.

 

The fact that government has the power to regulate intestate commerce does NOT mean they also have the power to infringe upon the unalienable rights protected by the Constitution. "Congress shall make no law"..."shall not be infringed"..."shall not be violated"...phrases such as that appear all throughout the Bill of Rights, and NOWHERE will you find any exception to your rights stating "unless you are engaged in interstate commerce".

I have ALL of the same Rights and Privileges travelling around in my CMV as I do in my POV. Yes, there are certain aspects to operating a regulated vehicle with extra paperwork and documentation, but I as a person do not yield ANY of my Rights just because I do the job I do.

 

You submit too easily you Quisling

 

I run under similar circumstances. Mostly local, with the once or twice a week trip that forces me to log.


I wonder how long it will take, now that Elogs are the law, for the gooberment to get rid of the local exemptions and force even the local guys to go electronic. I can see that happening sooner than later unfortunately.

 

I guess we'll cross that bridge when we get to it. I'm just glad I've got a day cab...much more likely to convince the officer you really ARE the local driver you're claiming to be. If you've got a sleeper, especially if you keep bedding and a change of clothes or two "just in case", it gets harder and harder to sell the fact that you're an exempt local truck.