Mike's Book Club: JB Hunt The Long Haul to Success

Discussion in 'LTL and Local Delivery Trucking Forum' started by Mike2633, Feb 12, 2018.

  1. Mike2633

    Mike2633 Road Train Member

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    To clear the air I have nothing against J.B. Hunt or the old fleet of cab over International's (that's just a joke) I'm a junkie for old stuff from past decades like that. I've always though if I had to go some place else J.B. Hunt would probably be on my list of places to go to be honest with you. Are they a perfect company? No. But neither is where I work now, every place has it's pro's and cons and not everything is for everybody. That's all. I'm not telling stories out of school J.B. Hunt was a big laughing stock in the late 80s early 1990s, but they were also the biggest. When Schneider was the biggest guess who was the butt of all the jokes? It kind of comes with the territory. Although I do tend to believe all the things about Swift, but really Schneider and J.B. Hunt and Werner have afforded people a lot of opportunities some worked out some haven't. However there was a guy on You Tube who was talking about Swift and he didn't have anything nice to say about them, but he said "Yeah you know what Schneider hires new people to and you don't nearly see Schneider trucks in the same predicaments as Swift trucks. Last I knew J.B. Hunt now a days really doesn't hire inexperienced drivers. Usually all there jobs require 6 months to a year if not more.

    I was reading on the J.B. Hunt board last night and one guy said "I started working at J.B. Hunt in 1989 and thought the place blew and quit." Then I realized they really weren't that bad were not really different then any place else.
     
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  3. bzinger

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    Werner drivers used to drive like professionals ...along with Crete ...now they are idiots .
     
  4. LtlAnonymous

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    That's exactly right. I respect that line of thought. If I were to become an owner-operator, I would operate well within my budget. I could care less if I'm driving a Peterbilt or a Freightliner, whatever pulls the freight in a cost-effective manner.
     
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    The thing about JB Hunt was they wante a fairly streamlined fleet and there cycle time was 3 years. The trucks they bought were not life time assets. It's a balancing act buy it at X price and sell it after 3 years when it's worth this price.

    Werner probably did pay a tad more on the front end but also got a tad more out on the back end.
    But yes owner operator is different then major fleet owner for sure.

    If I was an owner operator I would get a truck that's fairly common like a Volvo or Freightliner something where parts and service are readily avaliable.
     
  6. bzinger

    bzinger Road Train Member

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    I think jb and Clarence Werner pioneered the pump and dump trade cycle that almost all fleets adhere to today .
    My ex father in law was the truck engine manager for cat in Omaha and used to tell me how Werner would beat up cat on warranty issues even tho Werner clearly exceeded oil drain intervals by far .
     
  7. LtlAnonymous

    LtlAnonymous Road Train Member

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    I think that approach still applies to large Fleet ownership. Your mechanics can become very adept at fixing one type of truck.
     
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    1.From a corporate accounting perspective your point makes perfect business sense in most cases today, if one's only concern is the bottom line of the balance sheet. It's obvious that most fleet owners have adopted this perspective so you're in good company.

    2.Those of us who are truck aficionados bemoan the standardization trend that has occurred in the last 15 years. Guys like CL Werner Were one of the last big corporations to hold out on the standardization trend. Historically speaking I think CL Werner was one of the few big fleet owners who actually liked trucks, instead of just viewing them as a tool to produce revenue. In the past his above average trucks served him well when it came to resale value.


    In my view neither point of view is fundamentally flawed, different people put "value" on different things.
     
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    Sure. I get that. It's like the difference between a premium motorcycle and a moped.

    I'm of the mindset that if the moped gets far superior fuel mileage, I guess I'm starting my trip pedaling.
     
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    I can somewhat relate to your situation I was a little boy aspiring to be a driver during the golden era of trucking and trucking culture, I'm 41 years old now so my timing was obviously a little late to experience that time period. The video link below gives a glimpse into that bygone era of trucking, it's worth watching!

     
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    Well I I can personally report trying to be recruited by JB Hunt drivers back in the 90's at GP while unloading my tricked out 379 Pete, they were bragging about JB paying $0.26 a mile for experienced drivers. I was making $0.30 a mile (hub miles) at the time with decent benefits and a awesome truck. LOL no thanks JB.
     
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