AGRICULTURE HAULING EXEMPTIONS

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  1. Paddlewagon

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    Works for me!!!
     
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  3. Hurricane69

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    This...

    It would be helpful if the op told us what state they run in. Missouri considers harvest year round. Iowa just changed to harvest year round because of this rule.

    I haul ingredients for the largest pork producer in the world but the mill is part of the farm..which is owned by another American company and that company is owned by a China company.

    Confusing huh.....as long as the plant is a farm and your in harvest season in your state you should be good until you run into the officer that doesn't understand it.

    The states are putting out alot of guidance to the officers for this and eld enforcement. Don't ask me how I know.
     
  4. Accidental Trucker

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    Correct, but wait, there is more. The proposed guidance also states that, when empty, going to pick up agricultural goods also means you are HOS exempt within 150 air (nautical) miles.
     
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  5. m16ty

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    All of these exemptions just goes to show you that the HOS have zero to do with safety. I mean, does a farm hauler not get tired just like somebody hauling electronics? Evidently not, according to the DOT.

    CDL exemptions are the same way. Without a CDL, people hauling goods would kill everybody on the road, but people hauling farm goods or motor homes are perfectly safe without it.

    In TN, you can put a 16 year old to hauling grain, hop him up on enough drugs to where he can run 20 hrs a day, and still be within the law.
     
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  6. Accidental Trucker

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    FWIW, those HOS exempt AG haulers, according to FMCSA, have lower accident rates than drivers subject to HOS.

    Should we conclude that the current HOS actually cause accidents?
     
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  7. xsetra

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    YEP
     
  8. m16ty

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    I would argue, with quite a bit of evidence, that you are correct.

    The way HOS are structured, it encourages drivers to drive tired. Instead of a driver driving when he or she is rested, they are encouraged to drive whenever they have hours, regardless of how they feel. I don't know of anybody that has "normal" sleep patterns that coincides with current HOS. I have no doubt in my mind that most drivers would be safer with no HOS.
     
  9. turboguy

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    thanks guys for all the responses so I called the highway patrol to get some clarification for my situation

    and guess what?
    they created their own laws that apparently supersede the federal HOS exemption

    so you get 12 hours a day driving time only if you are picking up a commodity that has NOT been processed yet within 150 miles of the farm location

    since the commodity that I would be transporting has already been processed "in boxes" I cant even take advantage of this HOS rule
     
  10. xsetra

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    Which state is this?
     
  11. Long FLD

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    Not true. The MAP-21 exemption has no daily hour stipulation.
     
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  12. turboguy

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    yes federally that is correct however California inacted there own law called the CA code of regulations which I was told supersedes the federal law
     
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