Former O/Os of Chieftain for class action

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  1. Sandman 660

    Sandman 660 Light Load Member

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    Hey everyone,
    Over the last several months I've posted a few reviews on E L Hollingsworth/ Chieftain. They are a very problematic company and have a Litany of shortcomings which I've cited previously.
    In previous write-ups I was very diplomatic and tried to take a diplomatic approach.
    Having recently become aware of the fact that they shorted me somewhere between 9 and 12000 miles, I've decided to take a different approach.
    The reason for the range in miles is because in several instances I took longer routes to save time and shortages due to the "practical" miles scam.
    That aside, I'm a very diligent bookkeeper. I am currently in the process of contacting the brokers who posted the loads to find out exactly the number of miles they paid out for those loads.
    Then I'll compare those to my books and of course to the settlement sheets.
    The numbers I cited above are the discrepancy between the settlement sheet and my daily logs.
    I keep two sets, a notebook with my starting and stopping miles, the load ID number and total miles driven for the day. The second one has more detailed information for IFTA tax purposes.
    My records are Rock Solid.
    What I'm looking for is to make contact with other owner operators who have driven for Chieftain and also are diligent bookkeepers who noticed massive shortages in their miles paid.
    If you know someone who was an owner operator for Chieftain please get them in touch with me.
    I am not a litigious person, but wrong is wrong and someone needs to stand up. After the way they've treated me in the past, which in one instance included overt malice for me attempting to pay them a debt I owed them, several different instances of underhanded pilfering of my payroll, incompetence, sub par utilization, negative attitudes, low or no pay and a CFO who's a complete psychopath, it's time to take the fight to them.
    Anyone interested in working with me to hold these criminals accountable should contact me at redlikewaters@gmail.com
    Please contact if you can demonstrate shortages in pay beyond the "practical" miles scam.
    I have a multi step plan for taking these crooks down. I will need to see your evidence to determine if we can team up for the class action I am preparing.
    My wife is a high ranking attorney for the state we live in and we're planning on using our network of resources to move this case forward.
    Once we have a pool of plaintiffs we'll decide the best venue for a civil case and file.
    Eventually, provided we have necessary evidence, we will press the attorney General to open a criminal investigation.
    That's just icing on the cake.
    I have access to some great resources and am going to use the full breadth and scope available to me to see several wrongs righted.
     
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  3. ZVar

    ZVar Road Train Member

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    Sounds like the diffrence in practical miles and hub miles.
    Read your contract, I bet it states they pay practical. Or by the load and miles given in the load info is simply fyi only.
    If you don't know the difference, you really need to learn about trucking contacts before you go broke not knowing what is going on.

    P.s. what are you doing driving for such a crappy company if your wife is actually a "high powered" attorney? Methinks someone is not being honest with the class.
     
  4. superflow

    superflow Road Train Member

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    This is not the first time for Chieftain ripping off drivers : in 2002 they had a big Ford account in Romulus , Mi
    ....they were shorting pay checks on alot of drivers , until they shorted the wrong driver and that driver in return put tobacco in over half their fleet one night , the next day they had over 35 trucks down all over MI , IN , OH
    ....which in turn cost them the Ford motor account.
     
  5. nightgunner

    nightgunner Road Train Member

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    So you decided to take a longer route than you were being paid for but want to sue them for the difference?
    Read that slowly and see exactly how it looks.
     
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  6. Scooter Jones

    Scooter Jones Road Train Member

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    If my wife was a "high powered attorney", I certainly wouldn't be out driving truck ;-)
     
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  7. nightgunner

    nightgunner Road Train Member

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    Full semi-automatic lawyer?
     
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  8. Justrucking2

    Justrucking2 Road Train Member

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    I have had run ins with this outfit, nothing good to say about them. One tagged the nose of my truck at a dock. They speed through the plants, they could care less about courtesy and act like they own the docks. Not impressed with what I have seen of them in the past few years. I try to keep my distance.
     
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  9. Sandman 660

    Sandman 660 Light Load Member

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    Wow.
    I was going three legal route, but who hasn't felt that way after being ripped off? I'm going to dig into researching that one,thanks brother
     
  10. Sandman 660

    Sandman 660 Light Load Member

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    They pay practical, the discrepancy totals 3 times that loss per week.
    I said my wife is a high ranking attorney in the state we live in, not high powered.
    She's the number 3 in the state, as in chain of command for the state's attorneys. Which is why I'm a trucker.
    I owned a courier company in San Francisco, her job moved us to New Mexico and trucking was my only option. Chieftain has a yard in El Paso. There were no real reviews on them so I didn't know how dishonest they are.
    Live and learn.
    I'm trying to hold them accountable, provide accurate reviews of them and prevent the next guy from getting robbed.
    Where am I failing to be honest with the class?
    My goal here is to get in touch with others who've been through this with them to establish a pattern of behavior on their part.
    I'd like to keep the thread focused on that brother. Help if you know someone.
    Get them in touch.
     
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  11. Sandman 660

    Sandman 660 Light Load Member

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    Re-read what i wrote.
    I laid out the discrepancies BEYOND those miles driven out of route and beyond practical miles.
    They're 3 times those miles.
    Meaning, they've withheld an additional 250 miles per week beyond my out of route miles and beyond the practical miles the brokers short the load.
    You guys are wasting my time here.
    I'm trying to establish contact with others who've been shorted in excess of extra miles they've driven.
    I've tracked everything I've driven, I know what the load paid and what the practical miles were listed as.
    The discrepancy beyond that is still 9k tp 12k
     
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