Double Yellow's Company Driver to Independent Thread

Discussion in 'Ask An Owner Operator' started by double yellow, Nov 5, 2014.

  1. MagnumaMoose

    MagnumaMoose Lost or Missing

    6,070
    145,684
    Jan 18, 2018
    0
    DY still pops in here sometimes.
     
    rank Thanks this.
  2. Truckers Report Jobs

    Trucking Jobs in 30 seconds

    Every month 400 people find a job with the help of TruckersReport.

  3. spyder7723

    spyder7723 Road Train Member

    15,442
    24,743
    Mar 31, 2013
    sarasota, fl
    0
    Keep in mind a few things. First and foremost money was not the reason he got out of trucking. Secondly he was operating when rates were at a very low point. If he was rinning today he would be making double what he made then. Thirdly he was running dry van...historically the lowest paid and highest level of competition you can find in trucking.
     
  4. boredsocial

    boredsocial Road Train Member

    1,591
    2,493
    Apr 13, 2014
    Louisville, KY
    0
    Also keep in mind that he started when rates seemed high and then they fell immediately. No one knows what the future holds so wise men know cash is king. Do not over extend yourself to become an O/O. It's something that is worth doing right, but not something worth doing wrong.
     
  5. rank

    rank Road Train Member

    9,870
    113,111
    Feb 11, 2010
    50 miles north of Rochester, NY
    0
    Fixed!
     
  6. otterinthewater

    otterinthewater Road Train Member

    5,447
    28,753
    May 10, 2018
    Santa Barbara, Ca
    0
    Use of capital and time. I assumed it was strictly a business decision.
     
    double yellow Thanks this.
  7. double yellow

    double yellow Road Train Member

    5,946
    10,065
    Aug 28, 2011
    State of Jefferson
    0
    Yup. My timing has never been great, if I knew rates would rebound this much I would have delayed my "retirement."

    I also set out as an Owner Operator when diesel was ~$4/gal so I picked a fuel efficient truck & modified it to be even more fuel efficient. Then diesel dropped to $2 and even dipped into the $1s - killing my "edge" on the competition. That wasn't in my plan, the world was supposed to keep using up dinosaur juice, depleting the supply and making prices go up and up and up.

    I never considered that as oil prices went up, it suddenly became profitable to extract it from regions where it had not previously been economically feasible. I didn't consider that a whole bunch of people would rush in to do so at once, creating a temporary oversupply that would cause diesel prices to plummet.

    That was myopia on my part - had I looked independently at the history of oil prices I would have found that same trend happening over and over every 5-10 years. Similar cycles happen to rates and freight demand. In fact, rates are usually good when oil is high so, in hindsight, designing a business around something that mostly happens near market peaks is pretty dumb.

    But things always look much more clear in hindsight. Give your business a nice big margin of safety and you'll weather most of the unknown unknowns...
     
    iledbett, Terry270, vikingswen and 9 others Thank this.
  8. spyder7723

    spyder7723 Road Train Member

    15,442
    24,743
    Mar 31, 2013
    sarasota, fl
    0
    Hindsight is always 20 20. Just like a couple weeks ago when you were talking about celadon being a good opportunity and i said i wasnt willing to take the risk this time. Sure did blow that one didn't i?
     
  9. rank

    rank Road Train Member

    9,870
    113,111
    Feb 11, 2010
    50 miles north of Rochester, NY
    0
    What happened when you were playing that horse several months back?
     
    Tug Toy Thanks this.
  10. spyder7723

    spyder7723 Road Train Member

    15,442
    24,743
    Mar 31, 2013
    sarasota, fl
    0
    I bought about 17.5k shares last spring for something like 1.55 a share and sold last fall for over 7 bucks. There was also several auto buy and sales during that run. That deal actually netted more income than the truck did, and took a grand total of under 5 hours of time through out the year. It also netted a huge capital gains tax bill. Even with the ridiculously stupid high tax bill it was a big win for us. The biggest problem with it was fighting the urge to take the money and gamble on something else, Had to keep reminding myself that being right once does not make me a stock market expert.
     
    stwik, bbechtel16, Terry270 and 10 others Thank this.
  11. rank

    rank Road Train Member

    9,870
    113,111
    Feb 11, 2010
    50 miles north of Rochester, NY
    0
    Well done. Now imagine how them that do it for a living laugh at how hard we work for a buck
     
    stwik, Terry270, Tug Toy and 3 others Thank this.
  • Truckers Report Jobs

    Trucking Jobs in 30 seconds

    Every month 400 people find a job with the help of TruckersReport.