I'm going to put your idea to CAT. See what they have to say.
You have to pull the head I imagine, or can it be done on the truck. But then filings from cutting get into the cylinder, am I right ?
CAT C15 /6NZ trouble continues
Discussion in 'Heavy Duty Diesel Truck Mechanics Forum' started by truck 307, Dec 20, 2017.
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I wouldn’t be asking them anything at this point.....
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Problem went away with new injectors. I would be looking hard at those orings on the injectors. If bottom ring is gone check middle oring for signs of being exposed to compression gas. They usually look like you had a torch a little close to one spot. That compression gets into the rail it causes pressure problems and aeration also. Truck will run ok until under heavy load. I know you put new injectors in and that fixed problem so again it has to be either the injectors themselves or the seats in the head. Just my opinion but I would be at least pulling them and installing new orings and see if problem went away.
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Came to a stop but gotta go again in a minute.
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At this point how do you not know if the injectors are new or reman......I’d be anal about anything or anyone that touch’s that thing
Quality control on both sucks by the way...one of them could’ve gone south already.
You’ve done everything else but cut the seats so I’d probably do that.....Last edited: Jun 19, 2018
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Ever since CAT got out of highway truck engine build, they have really cheaped out, much more now than they have over past years when they decided to go reman with in frame parts, primarily injectors. -
Still sticking to my original diagnostics that it's your inj seats. But no one believes or wants to believe it. Lol
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Im stuck right now with CAT warranty. I start over riding their policy and kiss my platinum warranty good by.
The strange thing is she pulls like a wet dream from a stand still. 140,000+ gross and it whistles Dixie and I can't shift fast enough. Part 2...faster the road speed and here comes the stumble as shifting times farther apart and engine loads up.
Part 3...65 mph and I slow down to 30 mph as I crawl around the clover leaf with my top heavy / 13'6" /52ft end dump /140,000 gross, followed by immediate full throttle to get back to 65 mph, and it pulls like an Alberta wild fire. Strong, smooth and problem free.
Part 3...traffic suddenly slows and takes off again but my engine won't recover, pops/ stumbles etc with huge power drop.
One of the ways I envision the issue is, as long as engine speed spinning the fuel pump matches fuel demand, then all is well. Which corresponds with starting from a dead stop, when being on / off throttle to shift , with rapid close together drop-offs in RPM's allows fuel to be compensated with zero load on engine for 2+ seconds between full throttle applications. And also corresponds with being off the throttle rounding a clover leaf.
But the above doesn't jive with its ability to pull hard problem free when I leave the clover leaf behind and have foot to floor to attain highway speed, unless there's a return fuel issue and at this high torque the engine is eating the fuel which would otherwise cook in the head due to inability to get back to tanks ?
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