Have you ever wondered why bulk customers are such a pain?

Discussion in 'Tanker, Bulk and Dump Trucking Forum' started by dwmac71, Jul 3, 2018.

  1. rbrtwbstr

    rbrtwbstr Road Train Member

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    Much of this has to do with the sand haulers. At one point Heil had a six month wait for a new trailer. Stephens also was running about six month behind. So guys were buying anything that looked like it might have a chance of getting the job done, and most dumped stupid money into really old trailers.

    Doesn't mean old is bad. Our oldest is a 1975, and still will pass any DOT inspection with no problem. And it works better than some of our new ones.
     
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  3. spindrift

    spindrift Road Train Member

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    We're happy. And yes, Austin enjoys having a weird reputation. Thank goodness our daughter is in San Antonio so we can escape town to a place a little more in line with our cultural attitudes.
     
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    Some of those trailers are weakened by years of wear on the inside from cement, etc. being pumped out of them. That stuff grinds away at that aluminum like fine sandpaper.
    Doesn't help either when some drivers beat on the sides with metal hammers instead of using rubber mallets.
     
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  5. dwmac71

    dwmac71 Light Load Member

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    Aluminum has X number of cycles until it's fatigued out and must be scraped.
    How many 40 and 50 year old airliners do you see?
    X number of cycles (pressurizing and de-pressurizing) and it off to the bone yard.
    JAL had the pressure bell of a 747 fail in the air, that 747's tail had been damaged in a hard landing.
    The repairs to the pressure bell were done by JAL and Boeing, people who should know the 747 beater than anyone you would think.
    They upshot of it is they used 1 row of rivets to repair the pressure bell, but it required 2 rows.
    X number of cycle later (which the crash investigators able to calculate after the fact) bang.
    At altitude the pressure bell failed blowing off the tail of the 747 resulting in the death of all on board.

    The people who should have know how fix were wrong, The engineers who should have check the work missed it

    We have had tanks repaired by shops that are the best in the business and the work is hit and miss at best.
    The welds on one tank will look like art done by a master of his craft, the next one will look a drunk monkey was handed a spool gun and 5th of jack.

    My terminal is very proactive on up on tank service and checking for cracks, leaks, and pop offs are in working order.
    But, a lot of companies don't.

    Just because someone says 40 or 50 year old tank can pass a DOT inspection doesn't mean it can survive a plugged line and a stuck pop off.
     
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    Ours never see any type of hammer. That would be sort of like sleeping with the owners wife. Its Something you just don't do.

    Sand is probably the most abrasive product I've hauled. Our guys hauling sand to the wells were wearing out the tees on the bottom of the hoppers every month, and they were steel. By comparison, we have a trailer that has only ever hauled fine lime, and cement. The tees rusted through
     
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    Yeah I see what you're saying. Never thought of it that way really. But I couldn't tell you the last time I blocked up. It just is a very rare occasion for me. Wasn't always that way, either. When I started pulling these tanks, I spent a lot of time unblocking. What helped me was something the old guy that trained me stressed. "Go a bit slower, don't block it up, and be home before the guy that's in a hurry"
     
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  8. dwmac71

    dwmac71 Light Load Member

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    WE went to sandhog T's, We got 2 to 3 load out aluminum fittings on the black sand trailer.
    Now we get over a year on the T's and the sandhog 45 are 3 years old.
    I would blow through an aluminum 45 in 1 to 2 loads.
     
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  9. Fold_Moiler

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    #### those are all hell holes. Glad my job isn’t like that lol.

    We had fly ash blowing all over for like 5 minutes and they sent a dude up the pipe to weld it shut right away.

    We also have street sweepers going through a lot and us ready mix drivers like to fill our drums with clean water and back spin them all over the yard to keep dust down.
     
  10. speedyk

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    I delivered to a plant that had no bag plant, pipe came down to a drum of water, which was fed by the same hose the drivers used to wash their mixers after loading. Waded through that muck to put that hose back several times every offload. Not that it worked, it was just a little less worse.

    But that's not all...
    The auger for fly ash leaked when it ran, so there was a cloud of fly ash coming down over where I was standing whenever they were making batches. Which they waited to do until I got there because they never ordered until they were dead empty.

    Reported it to my supervision, went back and it was still broken, stopped taking those runs. Nice little town, wonder if the residents know what's floating around in their air.

    Meanwhile the sweetest fastest unload I did was at a politically correct newer plant with all the cleaners and fittings. I was half done before my appointment time. And I didn't need my respirator.

    Also, try fuel. It's amazing to use hose connectors that aren't beaten up or egged, the ears close just like that. And clean trucks, not covered with dust everywhere and blowing out clouds if you forget to turn on recirc before hitting the plant.
     
  11. Roberts450

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    All my dry bulk experience is with flour so we're always dust free. Oir unloads take for ever cause we have to pump through a screen with 1/4" holes but its clean work.
     
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