Gear Shifter Through the Dashboard & Behind the Seat

Discussion in 'Experienced Truckers' Advice' started by tlalokay, Aug 24, 2018.

  1. tlalokay

    tlalokay Medium Load Member

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    Evening brother truckers,

    Am I crazy or are there a few trucks out here on the road that have gear shifters that are completely messed up?

    If I have to bang the shifter into the console for gears 2/7 & 4/9 and pull it back behind my seat for gears 1/6, 3/8 & 5/10, doesn't that mean something is wrong?

    Also, the gears don't want to release unless you're 3/4s of the way into the next gear.

    In my first time driving the truck, I took it to a repair shop [non-gear issue] last week and I got stuck coasting on the way because I couldn't get the truck into/out of gear.

    Today, dispatch tried to force me to take this truck and I said I couldn't safely operate it. The response was "you'll get used to it" and "there is nothing mechanically wrong with the truck".

    Which is in line for a repair/adjustment- that gear shifter or my standards?
     
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  3. KillingTime

    KillingTime Road Train Member

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    You got big hands which you ram into the console when you grab stick-forward gears (2, 4, 7, 9)?.... What happens when you hold the stick and not the head / selector?.... Does the head still hit the console?

    Is it a brand you haven't driven before? Because a Volvo shifts different than a Ken shifts different than a Freightliner... TAC-happy, and if you're missing it that screws up your shift....

    Miles on the rig? Original tranny?.... Driven super-loose 450k trucks, and tight 1.5mill trucks....

    Just questions to get an understanding.
     
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  4. tlalokay

    tlalokay Medium Load Member

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    Nope.

    Yep. It actually wants to go through the console. There's way too much play in the gears.

    I've driven 18-spd classic Petes, 10-spd Eaton Internationals & Freights, and 13-spd Volvos. I've only ever seen this problem with a real beat up Freightliner in Chicago that was being used for local work.

    Not sure about the details of the rig. It's definitely 500k+ miles, 10-spd Eaton trans.

    Has to be a transmission swap far as I can tell, just something is not jiving with the shifter and the clearance for shifting in the cab.
     
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  5. Numb

    Numb Crusty Curmudgeon

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    linkage needs adjusting.

    was done to the F/Liner I used to drive while was on vacation. couldn't shift it for, squat to tight. lol

    it had gotten loose gradually over 400K miles and I never noticed it.

    into the dash, back into the sleeper and over into the passenger seat. ( not really that bad.)
     
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  6. adayrider

    adayrider Road Train Member

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    The fact that you use "bang" to describe shifting gears is the first clue.
     
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  7. magoo68

    magoo68 Road Train Member

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    Shifter forks are worn from driver abuse ..
     
  8. ShooterK2

    ShooterK2 Road Train Member

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    Probably just needs a new isolator bushing.
     
  9. tlalokay

    tlalokay Medium Load Member

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    These sound like easy & inexpensive enough fixes to make, however, when I took the truck to a mechanic for a vacuum leak of some kind, I overheard the owner saying to the mechanic that he was not going to fix anything else on the truck because he had already sunk $25,000 into it and had to pull it from the OTR pool of trucks.

    There's an older gentleman who uses the truck 3 days of week for local work and apparently he's used to the shifting in that truck and prefers it.

    My question now is- if I'm unable to get it into/out of gear just bobtailing, can I reasonably make the argument that it's not safe for me to drive it?
     
  10. windsmith

    windsmith Road Train Member

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    Learn to shift it the way he does.
     
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  11. tlalokay

    tlalokay Medium Load Member

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    Funny you should say that- that's exactly what dispatch said.

    My reply is: I was hired because I already know how to shift gears on an operable vehicle. I was not hired to learn how to shift a vehicle that needs repairs.

    Some backstory:

    When I began working there, the company assigned me the only day-cab. That makes sense given how tight some of these local P&D yards/docks are. I did an air brake test on the day-cab after I kept getting a low-pressure warning when starting up the truck after shutting it off for just a few minutes. Turned out to be air leaks on 3 fittings going into the primary air tank. They just assigned it to another driver instead of fixing it like they said they would.

    After that I was slip-seating newer OTR trucks for almost 2 weeks.

    Yesterday, out of the blue, they tell me I have to drive this Volvo with a bad shifter or else nothing at all.

    I don't think this move on their part was really about the Volvo. There were 3 other trucks on the lot that I had been driving for the past 2 weeks and at least one was not scheduled to be used for several days.
     
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