Other Than Honorable Discharge from Military

Discussion in 'Questions From New Drivers' started by WannaPinchy, Apr 7, 2009.

  1. Chiver3816

    Chiver3816 Bobtail Member

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    Better check as after 30 days of being awol it can be the same as being a convicted felon. Best bet would be go to the local police dept do a finger print or background check and see what may or may not come up.
     
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  3. fromm99

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    Your discharge is not considered a felony. It's a considered federal misdemeanor. As a general rule, a felony can be punished by confinement for more than 1 year but is not if you spend less than a year in confinement.

    So essentially you were terminated from your job for not showing up. Never heard of anyone not being court martialed for that but if that is true....there would be no record of your service unless you mentioned it and were told to provide your dd214.

    I received a BCD after serving for 3 years for marijuana use, so I have a little more explaining to do. My discharge was 10 years ago and I have heard that the background process only goes back so far but who knows. I'm a cdl student, so no turning back now.. Good luck to you!
     
  4. Ditty0014

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    The Best thing to do is not tell them you were ever in the military. I don't know if you need it to show proof of experience but, when they do a background check it won't come up if you said nothing. Also you should take your own fingerprints and send to the FBI database. Half the time the military will rely on some low ranking MP to send your court info to the Feds and he forgets to put it in or put it in right. If the info comes back clean you can rip your dd214s up cause thats the only info anybody will ever have on your discharge. I know because I also have been kicked out of the military and I got a bad conduct discharge. So, I checked with the feds and the info is clean. I now work for a oil refinery which you need a TWIC card in order to be hired. My background came back clean because I never mentioned the military and I've been working there for ten years now, I also own several guns. Why do you think a lot of homeland terrorist are able to shoot up a crowd of people after being kicked out the military? Because their info was never passed to the FBI from the military and now they're able to buy guns legally. Don't let the Military scare you, they always try to say if you get kicked out your life is over.
     
  5. Chinatown

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    I've worked with drivers that have Dishonorable discharges and didn't try to hide it. The company, as with most companies, don't care as long as you can drive safely.
    Some companies won't hire you, but if you have 3 or more years work history, no need to mention it.
    When I do a job application, I leave the military part blank.
     
  6. RDTrucking

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    So you started working for he oil refinery about a year and a half or so before the OP started this thread?
     
  7. Moose1958

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    The OP is long gone I imagine. So I won't quote him. I also am not going to embarrass the OP either. However he is VERY lucky that his CO and the convening authority "allowed" him to "just" be discharged. When I was in the Air Force a young airman took off from from our base chasing after some gal he had the hots for. Got arrested somewhere up in a West Coast State. Once they got him back to the base he was put in confinement and given a general Court Martial. Found guilty of violating Article's 85,88,89 and 95 of the UCMJ. sentenced to a term of 53 Years, reduced in rank from E3 to E1. I remember this because I still have the base newspaper. This was in 1977. Last I heard "around 2000" he was still making large rocks into small ones in a Military prison. All I will say is this. Come to me looking for a job and I find out you deserted I don't care if it was the war of 1812, you are going OUT my front door as fast as I can throw you OUT unhired! I rather sell my truck then employ you! I understand my opinion is a minority one. However that is just how I feel.
     
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  8. Moose1958

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    This is NOT correct and it never has been. ONLY a discharge as a result of a Court martial is considered a crime. None of the Administrative discharges carry a criminal element. I am shocked that anybody that was in the Military does not know the difference between these discharges. Now you can get an administrative discharge as a result of something you did offbase and get a record because of that. However NONE of the administrative discharges carry a crime with them.
     
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  9. Moose1958

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    NOPE nothing whatsoever mitigates leaving your post UA. Your CO is a moron (some are) utilize the chain of command. Go see a Chaplain. I am active in veteran groups. I know this sounds horrible to say. However there are a lot of Vietnam vets that was not able to come home after parents and siblings died. YOU are a member of the US military and through your unit responsible for this nations security. It sucks. However if the Army was not able to let this person go home it will not be the first time or the last time. Just getting up and leaving regardless of the dynamics or how much someone feels justified is criminal. I feel so strongly about this that I will not even shake a deserter or dishonorable discharged human's hand or break bread with them if I know their history.
     
  10. brsims

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    I was told by both the Army AND the Air Force to not even claim service due to my Administrative discharges (both medical) due to my getting bounced out in Pre-IET (PA Army Nationa Guard) and Basic (Air Force). And I never have. I don't deserve to, since I never served.

    Never had an issue with finding work, and hold a current TWIC. Whenever I'm asked about military service on an application, I just check "no". That embarrassment is mine, and mine alone.

    I'm the only man in my family who was not permitted to stand in service to my country.
     
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  11. REO6205

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    I feel mostly the same way but there's another side to it. If somebody goes AWOL for any length of time or deserts entirely I think they're a coward and the worst kind of scum. But...all in all we were better off without them.
    I was in the Army from '63 to '68. Two tours in VietNam. Medic.
    When we were in training we had a lot of guys bug out. Some went AWOL and got caught, others deserted and headed for Canada. I never saw any of them again and really didn't care to. I figured if they didn't want to be in the military it was better for them...and for the rest of us who stayed the course... to get out while they were still in training and not when they actually got to where the bad stuff was going on. Things were bad enough without not being able to depend on the guy next to you and having him bug out when things got tough.
    Deserters let you know what they were made of early on. They were cowards, both physical and moral, but all the rest of us made our choices and lived with the results. We did what we agreed to do.
    And for what it's worth...I would never hire a deserter.
     
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