Do i need a NY HUT sticker?

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  1. Atlanticus trucking

    Atlanticus trucking Light Load Member

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    do i need a NY HUT sticker? i have a ram 3500. the website says below. My truck weighs 9000lbs without the trailer / load. it mentions below about if the truck gross weight is over 18k lbs. does that 18k lbs include the loaded trailer? cause if so then id be over the 18k. if not then im below. can anybody clarify?
    • A HUT certificate of registration is required for any truck, tractor, or other self-propelled vehicle with a gross weight over 18,000 pounds. (If you elect to use the unloaded weight method to file your returns, a certificate is required for any truck with an unloaded weight over 8,000 pounds and any tractor with an unloaded weight over 4,000 pounds.)

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    Highway use tax
     
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  3. brian991219

    brian991219 Road Train Member

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    Yes. NY HUT applies to the gross combination weight, so it will include your truck, trailer and cargo. Where they make it confusing is by giving you multiple options on how to calculate the tax due based upon loaded and empty miles or just flat rate based on unladen weight.

    For simplicity I recommend using the unladen weight method, you would pay a slightly higher rate per mile than if you calculated both loaded and empty miles but it is easier to figure out and the difference is only a few dollars a quarter at most. Also easier to support during a tax audit. When calculating NY HUT remember that all the miles on the NY Thruway are exempt from HUT. They still need to be accounted for and reported, but no tax is due on them.
     
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  4. Atlanticus trucking

    Atlanticus trucking Light Load Member

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    Awesome thank you for the clear response. Just faxed in my application
     
  5. Oldironfan

    Oldironfan Road Train Member

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    There is no more HUT sticker for New York.
     
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  6. brian991219

    brian991219 Road Train Member

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    Wrong. The OOIDA challenge only reduced the fee to $1.50 per truck for the decal. In reality it was a giant joke, typical of the clowns at OOIDA. They fought NY and ended up costing out of state motor carriers like myself more than our "refund" check was because we had to use a permit service while the court was deciding the case due to NY locking out of state carriers out of the OSCAR online system.
     
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  7. xsetra

    xsetra Road Train Member

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    18,000# gross includes your load.

    You don't have to purchase the sticker.
    You can buy a permit for each trip if you make a few per year. You don't need to file quarterly reports.

    Once you start an account quarterly filings are required and mileage records must be kept.
     
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  9. Atlanticus trucking

    Atlanticus trucking Light Load Member

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    Unfortunately I’m in NY almost every day.
     
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