Gliders - Pros and Cons vs DPF / DEF Trucks?

Discussion in 'Trucks [ Eighteen Wheelers ]' started by Call_Me_The_Breeze, Oct 27, 2018.

  1. gokiddogo

    gokiddogo Road Train Member

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    So that's where that ended up. That is one sweet ride. I think stingray also has a fair amount of 12ga stuff.

    I've never really been a star car guy... those trucks are more for folks who do real work
     
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  3. AModelCat

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    The driver used to run for a local equipment hauling outfit that we had contracted. He showed me a few progress pics as the build went on. I left that place before he took delivery of it but my buddy sent me a few pics when he brought it by the yard.
     
  4. gokiddogo

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    I'll have mine. Someday. Land + yard space + shop is my next financing plan. 2019/2020 start that.
     
  5. Call_Me_The_Breeze

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    Not to mention, about two years ago, I happened upon a convoy of 8 or 9 new builds en route to a customer. Now, I don't recall for sure if the folks I talked to about the trucks were employees of Fitzgerald, or Pittsburgh Diesel (who do Fitzgerald's 'super tune'), but I remember these folks were all wearing polo shirts with embroidered logos for one entity or the other. Anyway, I was talking shop with one or two of these fellows, and indicated I was interested in a 386 Pete glider.

    Now, I'm particularly fond of the 386 for my own reasons. Another platform I would consider is a Cascadia, glider or not. At any rate, all I said to these guys was that I was interested in a 386 for my build when I was ready to make a move, and one said it was a waste of time and money, and I should get a 'real' truck, that the 386 was a POS.

    Possibly, it was a ploy to get me to pony up the extra cash for a W900, 379/389, or Coronado. But quite honestly, it really p-ssed me off, and I seriously question whether I will deal with either of them, as I have seen select dealers who sell gliders alongside factory-built DPF/DEF trucks. Who in their right mind would flat-out bash a potential customer's preference? Rule number one, the customer is always right, unless the customer chooses to be an a--hole.
     
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  6. Bean Jr.

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    That is true. Start the truck at the beginning of the trip, shut it off when done.
     
  7. Call_Me_The_Breeze

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    And roast in the summer, freeze in the winter... Not this kid.
     
  8. tommymonza

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    We have 25 Western Star Harrison built gliders at my company.

    All Detroit factory rebuilt 12.7s.

    All right around 300,000 right now

    Had one drop a valve and c.o.c.k. the piston and destroy the skirt last week on a fellow employees truck just cruising down the flat road leaving the yard

    Got interrupted when talking to the mechanic rebuilding it at our shop so didn’t get the details if a keeper let go or it broke at the stem

    Metal through the whole system

    Poop happens.
     
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  9. Bean Jr.

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    I'm not sure if you understood me. You leave home, start the truck. You return home, that's when you finally shut it off.
     
  10. Misesian

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    There are plenty of Glider builders out there besides Fitzgerald; do some Google research and you can find them. Gliders are definitely cool and I love the way the pre emission motors sound and all the tuning stuff you can do to them. However, the new trucks, 2017 and beyond, are pretty solid. The reliability is much better than, if the only emissions truck you’ve had experience with was a 2010-2013. The oil drains are longer with great results, fuel mileage is excellent, and maintenance costs have gone down considerably on both the motor and the emissions components.
    I’ve been posting a lot in a thread regarding the new International Truck motor, the A26. I have it in my 2018 LT and have 126k miles on it now. Average weight 73k, around 17% deadhead, reefer central US to East and back, 8.63 mpg average, and no problems out of it. The new motors are very capable of big mpg numbers. The Run on Less Campaign participants had an average gross weight in the mid 50s and the group averaged 10.1mpg.
     
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  11. Call_Me_The_Breeze

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    Unfortunately, most companies now have their trucks on idle shutdown timers with no regard for driver comfort. So your philosophy is fine for owner-ops or local drivers.
    I've driven up to and including a 2015. Most were Detroit DD15s, with a few MaxiPads and D13s. DD15s seem to be the most reliable, with the 2013 and later MaxiPad a close second. Volvo's D13 is part of the reason I've left a couple of companies. This A26 engine you mention, what exactly is it? Is it the Franken-engine that Cat and NaviStar jointly developed?
     
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