Is this government or my company?

Discussion in 'ELD Forum | Questions, Answers and Reviews' started by bamanation, Dec 23, 2018.

  1. bamanation

    bamanation Heavy Load Member

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    Well I work for a great company. Money is great hometime is great. We all know how the safety directors can go overboard with self imposed rules that go above and beyond what the requirements go. Just looking for some information to bring up during our next meeting.
     
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  3. ZVar

    ZVar Road Train Member

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    Might want to wait until you find out if what safety said is even true. My guess is someone in the office was told by the vender "Any wheel movement will trigger the drive line", and someone translated that into any steering wheel movement....
     
  4. Nukem

    Nukem Road Train Member

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    The old AOBRD units still have some wiggle room. I have a Omnitrax/Qualcomm unit in my tractor and can still be adjusted for simple movements. But it's up to the company and how it is interpreted and how much they want to push the allowances in rules. Will they give enough room to hang yourself, or get so super tight that you cannot do anything at all???
     
  5. Accidental Trucker

    Accidental Trucker Road Train Member

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    The ELD gets it's information from the ECM and the GPS. How, exactly, is the ELD getting steering wheel rotation information?

    Otherwise, get in through the passenger door.....
     
  6. ZVar

    ZVar Road Train Member

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    That's not 100% accurate. The mandate states a max of 5 MPH. The company can still set it to any movement at all....

    "(3) An ELD's set speed threshold for determination of the in-motion state for the purpose of this section must not be configurable to greater than 5 miles per hour."
     
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    25(2)+2 Trucker Forum STAFF Staff Member

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    The problem with setting it much below 5 mph is it will false trigger more easily fromwhat others using EROAD have told me.

    They stuck a booster, which looks like another ELD unit, on the far passenger side windshield today, and I'm not supposed to touch it. Still not tallying daily miles right if I run over midnight, I'm not sure about all miles on a trip done in one day. I have been stopping at midnight to get it to log a location I can see if I happen to be running then.
     
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  8. Dieselboss

    Dieselboss Technology Contributor

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    There is NO function in Omnitracs that changes any duty status line in relation to the steering wheel. NONE.

    If yours is in AOBRD mode at present, then your company can set it up to 25 MPH before it will trip it to ON-DUTY/DRIVING. Or, they can also set it to go any speed you want as long as you don't move over 2 miles for example. There is much leeway for AOBRD mode.

    You say that they are going to transition to ELD mode soon (as will all companies in 2019.) The GOVERNMENT mandate states that the ELD must go into "Driving" at no more than 5 MPH. The Omnitracs device "default" setting for tripping the drive line is 5 MPH as READ BY THE SPEEDOMETER SENSOR IN YOUR ECM. If you stay UNDER 5 MPH it will not trip unless your company has requested a special software change. This is why you see trucks creeping at 3 MPH around the truck stops. I have had multiple cases where the truck's speedo sensor was out and the driver could drive all day without EVER tripping the drive line because the Omnitracs never saw 5 MPH from the ECM. We had to go back and manually edit their log to show the drive time until they got their speedo sensor replaced at the dealer.

    I do not know the technical workings of other brand ELDs. However, by default, Omnitracs will not trip your duty status if you move the steering wheel all day long, just the wheels over 5 MPH if it is set to ELD mode.
     
  9. flood

    flood Road Train Member

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    Just a point a AOBR IS A ELD...
     
  10. flood

    flood Road Train Member

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    You do need to know because ALL of them are ELD'S.

    some are compliant and some are not compliant with the ELD mandate
     
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