WHAT THE HELL IS GOING ON WITH RATES IN CALI????

Discussion in 'Ask An Owner Operator' started by chimbotano, Feb 23, 2019.

  1. KB3MMX

    KB3MMX Road Train Member

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    I keep getting offered loads to California and keep turning them down, citing the TOTALLY absurd market out there... NO THANKS !!

    Stay strong guys... JUST SAY NO !!
     
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  3. Farmerbob1

    Farmerbob1 Road Train Member

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    One thing about doing o/o under the authority of a mega, working an account. The short term market does not impact me at all. A load to CA pays me exactly as much today, as it did last month, or next month.

    I don't get the price peaks, but I dont have to deal with the prices when they fall either.
     
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  4. Tonkatrucksaresmall

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    The goveenment sure as hell hasn't funded my business.

    When I first got my green card I was told about the "tax breaks, the grants and everything else." What they don't tell you is the GRANTS are for creating employment for 10 -50 people and you must have a decent amount of money yourself. For the record these grants are also available for american citizens as well as immigrants.

    As for unsecured loans? Good luck doing that in the first 5 years as an immigrant. I've been here 3 years, have 8 payments left on a truck I paid $64k for and will own it free and clear. That $64k will have taken 20 months. Has it been easy? Nope far from it. No grants, no u secured loans. Hell I've barely got $4k available on several credit cards. But my credit score is close to 700, I've never missed a payment of any description for a credit card, the car, phones or the truck. Second truck will be coming in a few months when Im under 6 payments left.
    The reason that most immigrants have stuff they own outright? Because we have no choice but to work our arses off to pay our bills, because if we fail. We have nothing to fall back on as we aren't entitled to government assistance if we don't have a job.....
     
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  5. chimbotano

    chimbotano Heavy Load Member

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    Appears that every where is the same , a less is a hot load . I drove about 900 miles to get to north of Cali for a little bit more than 3.00 per mile on a reefer load 1 pick 3 deliveries and I’m going back for 2.00 per mile on a dry load 1 pick 1 drop.
    I’m going to wait at home until I get a decent rate to go out again .
     
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  6. Opendeckin

    Opendeckin Medium Load Member

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    The cheapest load I've ever hauled pays more than 1.35 per mile.
     
  7. chimbotano

    chimbotano Heavy Load Member

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    I don’t know about you or others, but personally I or my friends (O/O. 100% independent)) will never haul a load for less than 2.00 as the market is right now and when produce times comes the lowest we get is 3.5 -4..00 per mile .
     
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  8. Farmerbob1

    Farmerbob1 Road Train Member

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    Do you get the fuel discounts of a mega with their fuel block purchasing?

    Speaking of which, when I hit my next 34 break I need to tabulate actual numbers on how much I am paying per gallon through Crete, and drop it in my thread.

    More than one data point, that is. We already saw that in at least one case, Crete was getting 60 cents off cash price per gallon in PA, which was better than any o/o responding to the thread was willing to try to claim.
     
  9. KB3MMX

    KB3MMX Road Train Member

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    True but usually the rate sucks use round, yes? The megas solicit me most of the year with the contact lanes but their rates are usually the deterrent. I would like to find a good one though and add some trucks.

    Can you recommend a good one?

    60¢ is big, the best my NASTC usually does is 50ish , right now it's varying 40 +/- at my usual locations.
     
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  10. loudtom

    loudtom Road Train Member

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    Unless Swift has some sort of controlling contract stipulations(which is what the law is designed to prevent), then they are going to lose drivers that they help get their authority. Once the drivers realize what other brokerages are paying, they'll probably move, especially considering the additional burdens and cost of being independent.

    The alternative is for Swift to pay contractors more money.

    This flood of trucks on the market is probably going to have a short term negative effect on the spot market.
     
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  11. Freddy57

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    The pump price at TA Breezewood today is 3.759 according to the TA app, today's priceis 3.205 per gallon for NASTC members. That's 55.4 cents discount. Not too far off of Crete.
     
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