34 Hour Reset & time spent PC?

Discussion in 'Trucking Industry Regulations' started by tscottme, Mar 28, 2019.

  1. tscottme

    tscottme Road Train Member

    I've recently started using Off-Duty (PC) to commute to/from company terminal. Does my 34 Reset begin after the ODPC is completed or can it LEGALLY begin when I start ODPC? I usually have 48 hours off but if it comes down to minimum legal 34 Reset I would like to know in advance. I'm only asking about the legal answer.


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  3. D.Tibbitt

    D.Tibbitt Road Train Member

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    I believe you are saying commuting from the terminal to home , correct? If that is the case then yes your 34 would start as soon as you log off duty, if it were the other way around , home to terminal, i believe tjat should be recorded on duty/ driving
     
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  4. x1Heavy

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    Going home. BYE! Totally off duty.

    Leaving home to yard? On duty driving. Sorry.
     
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  5. Allow Me.

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    I would argue this.....when you go "off duty" you are allowed to do anything you want. This includes driving your Honda Civic ANYWHERE you want, even to your house ! And back ...all the while OFF DUTY ! Why would driving back to the terminal be logged line 4 ? When you get to the terminal and are ready to go, possibly, but even then I wouldn't.
     
  6. D.Tibbitt

    D.Tibbitt Road Train Member

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    I would say if hes driving his truck from house to the terminal , if thats where his next load is, which is what it seems like, i always thought thats supposed to be logged onduty driving since hes advancing toward his pickup/destination...asuming he is driving his rig and not a car
     
  7. lcfd15

    lcfd15 Medium Load Member

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    When you log the truck in PC you are using it no different then your personal vehicle. You are off duty the moment you put it off duty prior to using ODPC.
     
  8. x1Heavy

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    When we parked the 18 wheeler on our land at home, the moment we touch it it's driving etc.

    Very rarely do we have to take a car to the yard.
     
  9. Expeditor

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    Home to terminal and terminal to home is OK under PC, as long as driver is not dispatched.

    The following are examples of appropriate uses of a CMV while off-duty for personal conveyance include, but are not limited to:
    1. Commuting between the driver’s terminal and his or her residence, between trailer-drop lots and the driver’s residence, and between work sites and his or her residence. In these scenarios, the commuting distance combined with the release from work and start to work times must allow the driver enough time to obtain the required restorative rest as to ensure the driver is not fatigued.
    If you look at some of the other interpretations you will find that some say if home, can't be dispatched then go to terminal under PC. Must not be dispatched, PC to terminal then get dispatched from terminal.
     
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    D.Tibbitt Road Train Member

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    Good stuff they make these rules to complicated
     
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  11. supersnackbar

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    Very simple...if they're paying you to drive home, or to drive back to the yard, then it's on duty...if they're not paying you, then it's PC.
     
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