I'm trying to get in the teamster's. I like that they have seniority and (hopefully) pension as well as good healthcare and of course OT after 8 as well as PTO, sick days, holiday.
My uneducated opinion (which is mostly likely wrong but what I gather) is as follows:
UPSF: Top pay but you have to start the lowest. You work your way up but when you get to the top of the pay scale you can expect mid to upper 20's/hr and .72/mile linehaul. Benefits I don't know if they pay fully or not.
ABF: From the small sample size I gathered is the freight isn't the greatest. You have to deal with a lot of weird freight like pool tables etc...However you don't have to wait to get to top rate or at the least you don't have to wait as long and top rate is around 24/hr and .64/mile linehaul?
YRC: Crapshoot depending on what may/may not happen come late March with the new contract. YRC could be making a comeback or it could be in trouble. Hopefully the drivers get back the 15% they had to give up in pay and hopefully they can get their pension back to at least 75% but we won't know until the end of March. Pay is 18.80/hr and takes 3 years to get to top pay rate which would be about 21.75/hr (here in Tampa FL anyway)...benefits healthcare paid fully by company which is great.
feel free to correct me if I'm wrong but I'm just trying to get a grasp for this. I'm about to be 36 and have a small family and I'm ready for a career and not a job. I have been driving for 10 years now and it's time to get serious.
What's the best union LTL carrier to work for (UPSF, YRC, ABF)?
Discussion in 'Questions From New Drivers' started by macknumber9, Jan 27, 2019.
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You can read@Russian Rabbit thread on UPSF. It will give ya plenty of insight about UPSF.
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I can't help too much, but I will say, you can be vested for a pension after 5 years and doubt if you can beat the healthcare insurance for you and the family. Get paid for all you do, unlike many companies where there various activities that are done for free.
Also, the pension, you can leave part of that to your wife should you pre-decease her.macknumber9 and heyns57 Thank this. -
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One suggestion I read on here was to visit the barns in person and ask questions. Most of the time people will try to help, some places are hostile but then you find that out and learn that you don't want to work there.
IMO the teamster companies are the most vulnerable if a future downturn happens. They have more employee cost overhead.macknumber9 and Texas_hwy_287 Thank this. -
From my vantage point, the LTL's are much more similar than not. Their CBAs are almost the same too this will affect the retirement packages.. If I was starting out I would also go LTL. To me the difference is fit. What point is it to get a job with company A when company B is closer. Go visit as many LTLs as you can. Speak to the drivers. Put some time into this and I bet you will find that place that is the best fit.
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None. Read up on the Teamsters pension fund and proceed from there.
It's like a movie that you know the ending to.macknumber9 Thanks this. -
I plan on making some smart investments (real estate) for passive income which basically can become my own pension plan if I do things right which shouldn't be hard following the basic model....I would obviously rather have the pension strong though so I can double dip or triple dip counting social security.
If I could get weekends off fairly quickly in a union company I think I would go for it just for the health benefits alone....
It's truly sad that the union isn't what is used to be. My dad was in for many years starting in early 80s and now had a really good pension. Also there were more teamsters companies to drive for including construction as well which he did. I wish there were teamsters construction driving positions here in Florida but that would never happen. -
YRC if you avoid certain terminals. I've worked Charlotte, NC YRC and Savannah, GA ABF..
The pension is the ONLY reason. The health and dental and 401k you can get anywhere now..
You get on at the wrong terminal and you'll be walking in to a war zone where you have to do other peoples work and have people trying to set you up for a firing..Last edited: May 6, 2019
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