Failure to control ticket in company CMV on icy roads?

Discussion in 'Experienced Truckers' Advice' started by Marky84, May 8, 2019.

  1. buddyd157

    buddyd157 Road Train Member

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    if i recall, the state of VT..??

    they DO NOT PLOW at night, they wait till daybreak.
     
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  3. buddyd157

    buddyd157 Road Train Member

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    i dunno, ditching a truck is not something i'd ever want, it's as bad as a rollover....that'll stay on your file with your employer, the "failure to control" ticket will show up on your DMV.
     
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  4. x1Heavy

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    I would not know. I never had to do VT in winter actually.

    So I cheated. In my time there was precious little going up there. They prided themselves on having all they need to live on.
     
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  5. buddyd157

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    yeah, if i recall, when i worked at NEMF, there was a driver from Burlington that i'd meet up with either in NJ at the main terminal, or in NY at another one.

    that's what he told me, and later i found that to be true.

    here, from VT trans

    Do neighboring states have better road conditions during storms?
    Occasionally, they do. VTrans has less equipment and fewer people doing the work than our neighboring states. We also have some of the longest plow routes in New England. Vermont plow routes can take an average of 1½ to 2 hours to complete. As such, drivers may come across roads that have not been plowed and treated for some time. Some other states run two full shifts; we simply don’t have the staff to do that.

    so yeah, they do not come out at night, you're on your own at night.

    Snow and Ice Control FAQ | Agency of Transportation
     
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  6. mitmaks

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    Just cause roads are not white does not mean they are not slick. Sounds like you've hit black ice patch, should've driven more carefully. This one is on you driver.
     
  7. Marky84

    Marky84 Heavy Load Member

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    No, it wasnt black ice, it wasnt blown snow. It was literally plowed, then NOT plowed.
     
  8. buddyd157

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    read my link about the state of VT...if it's not in the budget, they come out later, or they had already plowed but have many other miles of road to plow. no state can have the roads to bare pavement 100% of the time, at least, that's been my experience over the past 48 years of winter driving.
     
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  9. starmac

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    I am not going to say you were running too fast for conditions, you may have or may not have been, at least not just because you were passing someone means nothing. Now just because you hit deeper snow means nothing either, you got off the edge period, that is why it sucked you. I have hit snow drifts 3 or 4 feet deep that went over the cab tore the offroad lights and license plate off the bumper, but as long as you are in the road it won't pull you in to the ditch. You tried to give the car too much room.
     
  10. Espressolane

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    Know a few companies that if in any situation a tire is not in contact with the ground, it is classified as a roll over.

    The citation was correct, you lost control of the vehicle. The LEO was nice to you. You could have been cited for a few other things. Take the discount, move on.
     
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  11. Mototom

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    Why the heck would you pass in bad weather? I’m just a new driver but I’ve seen a lot of wrecks this last winter. I spent 90% of December through March up on 90 and 80 (destinations being in WA, UT, WY, MT, MS) I even got to drive through the tail end of a blizzard. When all those trucks were stuck I waited a day and took backroads down into Iowa. I was ok because I was driving for conditions (#### slow)
    I will say I was nervous going down cabbage patch while it was sleeting
     
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