Illinois -- 3 or 4 axle RGN trailer?

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  1. ichudov

    ichudov Heavy Load Member

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    Right now I have a 2 axle RGN Trailking TK60MG. I am trawling auctions to find a good deal on a 3 or 4 axle trailer with a hydraulic neck. (I have a regular truck with tandem rear axle and a wet kit).

    I know that my quarterly permit allows me up to 120k lbs on 6 axles. It does not say anything about 7 axles and I have not found much info on this.

    My questions is how much would I be permitted to haul on 7 axles with a 4 axle trailer. I would suppose that I have to get a superload permit for every load over 120k?

    The reason for all this question is to decide if I get any advantage at all from owning a trailer to which I can add/remove a 4th axle. Maybe I should just settle for a cheaper to buy a used 3 axle RGN trailer and not spend anything on the 4th axle option?

    Thanks
     
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  3. zinita17601

    zinita17601 Road Train Member

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    I was eyeing a 3 axle 55 ton at an auction.2007 fontaine sold for 50k,it did have a flip neck. Who the hell is paying so much? Truck paper same specs 2002 trailer asking 32k,if i had that much extra cash i’ll just put a down on a brand new one
     
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  4. Heavy Hammer

    Heavy Hammer Road Train Member

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    Its called Auction Fever, and it's what the sales yards hope for...and if you're a seller, you pray for.
    That's why you have to do your homework, and be prepared to walk away. Some people can't bring themselves to be sensible when they should, others fail to plan and therefore they MUST buy something to fulfill a commitment they shouldn't have made.
     
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  5. ichudov

    ichudov Heavy Load Member

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    I bought my 2 axle RGN for 12.5k at an auction...

    But back to my original question... Would having a removable 4th axle, and not simply 3, axles, confer some kind of advantage to me realistically?

    I am in Illinois and this is where I operate also.
     
  6. Old Man

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    Kind of hard to balance weight to max a 4 axle, unless you haul loads that are less than15 ft long.. you can’t load over the axles like on a step so you’ll get heavy in the front real easy.
     
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  7. ichudov

    ichudov Heavy Load Member

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    Thank you. I kind of agree with you and I think that without a Jeep there's no way to load that properly. I would just look for a 3-axle
     
  8. johndeere4020

    johndeere4020 Road Train Member

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    That doesn’t make sense, I can max out my 8 axle no problem with a variety of machines.
     
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  9. johndeere4020

    johndeere4020 Road Train Member

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    Well it’s a hard to answer without knowing what you’re planning to haul.
     
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  10. ichudov

    ichudov Heavy Load Member

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    I am a private carrier. I haul my own forklifts, the heaviest of which could be 66-67,000 lbs if I put a boom on it. With forks and not the boom, this forklift is 61,000. I also haul scrap metal or other heavy machinery that I buy or get for free. Last piece of scrap metal that was the biggest was also about 60,000 lbs.

    It looks small but it is very heavy. I do not anticipate needing more axles than 6 or 7 at most.

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  11. johndeere4020

    johndeere4020 Road Train Member

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    You should be able to scale 60,000 in Illinois on a tandem tractor and trailer. Even if your tare weight was 50,000 which it won’t be with that little Freightliner you’d still only be 110,000. That little truck and a 35 ton tandem detach you’d be closer to 40,000 empty.
     
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