I think this is my first post even though I've been a member for about 3 months.
I wasn't sure where to post this but since it happened in a tanker, i guess this is the most appropriate thread. Mods can move it if it isn't.
On March 28th I was in PA traveling down a mountain on a US route (can't remember the name of the route unfortunately).
I was in a manual truck and although I am embarrassed to say this I can't shift for ####.
Going down this mountain, the speed limit is an enforced 10 mph for commercial vehicles and no passing in the left lane for said vehicles.
I wasn't in the proper gear going down this mountain, I was pulling a heavy hazmat load. I panicked. Never drive a manual down a mountain before. A truck was in front of me doing 10 mph. I was doing 15 mph.
I tried slowing down, using jakes and I tried to get into 5th gear. It wouldn't let me. I passed that truck on the left.
At the same time a cop at the bottom of the mountain saw me pass on the left and he pointed to a sign that said "all trucks must stop" or something similar. I didn't get a good look at the sign since I was just trying to avoid a rear end collision.
Cop chased me down. Pulled me over and gave me a $182 fine for failure to obey signage.
I paid the ticket.
I'm in the process of going back to my old trucking company I worked before but I am afraid that ticket will show on my mvr or background. It's the only negative I have.
I didn't tell this company I'm trying to go back to about it because I was told it won't show on any of my records.
Even though I got the citation in PA, I live in Chicago. I called the Illinois DMV and they said nothing is showing but I wonder if trucking companies can dig deeper into your past.
Can anyone give me some info on what to expect? I appreciate any info I get.
Failure to obey signage in PA
Discussion in 'Tanker, Bulk and Dump Trucking Forum' started by blackciti, Jun 1, 2019.
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Learn the mountain with shifting. You do not want to run into that ever again.
Never mind those tickets, they will turn up somewhere you can count on that. You need to have that thing in gear any way you can get it. And stay in it.
When you have the feel of the situation later in your experience you will begin to stop crawling, then walking and finally run.
The good thing is we are out of winter. This is the time to learn before next.joshuapowell61, rabbiporkchop, misterG and 3 others Thank this. -
It won't show up on your mvr probably because you have a Illinois license. It doesn't show up on a non commercial license in Pa They seem to put out such bad information. Let the company know as stated before improve your shifting skills that is more important.
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Thanks for the advice. I actually have 2 years of driving experience but I got that experience from mega carriers. Of course megas have auto trucks. I finally got a company with manual trucks and my noob ### loses control of the truck by not knowing what gear to be in going down a mountain. Lesson learned. If I can't go back to my old company because of this ticker I will look else where. Someone will take me since its my one and only citation.
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Never ever shift going down a mountain. Luckily you got it back into gear.
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That is the one thing really, don't take her out of gear.
Ive told stories in the past taking my truck out of gear downgrade on certain hills and that gravity gets ahold of it. Balancing out roughly 140-150 mph It's beyond safe engineering for tires, wheels everything. Those days and the associated stories did happen when they did as part of my trainer teaching me mountain possibilities. Sort of we already been falling off this one so it cant be that bad to be that runaway now ... Throw me into the water and hope I swim. Might as well.
Even on upgrades when they are steep enough you leave her in gear in such a engine speed RPM in which she is between torque and sweet spot high horse power but nowhere near the redline burning out the Pyrometer among other risks.
Sometimes on snow deep enough if you shifted out of a range bound 200 rpm apart you will spin or slide the drives and gravity and terrain will put you into the ditch before you can get another gear.
All of that is based on keeping that drive line and wheels/tires working under the engine itself. Connected. Sometimes that is very good. Called "Keeping power to the drives" if it is forward power or actually a form of braking power."
Im not here to lecture. It's good you are going to get all of this out of your hair before the next big mountain. Because if something does not get into gear then.. well.. nice knowing you. Hope you are in a good place to die. As in pretty landscape., (Slight teasing)Intothesunset and blackciti Thank this. -
Unless he did a inspection nothing should show up. I got popped on a 102” restricted road. I have no violations since 2011 on my mvr. Was ticketed in 2012.
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You better know how to downshift going down a hill or mountain and as soon as you realize you're in too high a gear, brake, drop the rpms and slam it into a lower gear. -
When you find yourself in a gear too high. You keep her in gear and use the brake so you don’t have to brake as hard as neutral would be free rolling some engine brake is better than none. Then while still holding the brake with your right foot heel you attempt to shift left foot on clutch and right toe on throttle. With enough practice it becomes instinct. OP you should find short steep grades to practice this method on. Something like a 1 mile 5% grade. -
Rule of thumb has always been go down hill in the same gear as you would need to have to go up it.
It is better to go down too slow than too fast, and you should be in the lower gear at the top. That is why many hills require a stop at the top. You pull out already in a lower gear and maintain it.
You can go down a lot of hills too slow, but only one too fast!
Also, hard, long term downhill braking overheats brakes. That's why you couldn't get slowed down. Better to lightly ride the brakes when speed increases, and then release to let them cool, and let engine brake hold you back.joshuapowell61, blackciti, x1Heavy and 1 other person Thank this.
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