On duty or off duty.

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  1. truckdriver31

    truckdriver31 Road Train Member

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    this is the reason we have elogs. only the 1% could run 2 books out of 1. these current drivers dont understand why you take the staples out of the book and make them lose leaf.
     
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  3. tommymonza

    tommymonza Road Train Member

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    Don't be a Looser. Learn how to Cheat your Elogs.
     
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  4. truckdriver31

    truckdriver31 Road Train Member

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    lol
     
  5. tucker

    tucker Road Train Member

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    Until you get into an accident and The Hammer compares your paper log sheets to your cell phone records and your coffee club purchases.
    You may fool a DOT officer doing a roadside inspection but that drunk driver that ran in to you and his lawyer will find every little discrepancy and you’ll pay dearly.
    But odds are that won’t happen, but there’s always that chance it may.
     
  6. truckdriver31

    truckdriver31 Road Train Member

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    hammer down
     
  7. not4hire

    not4hire Road Train Member

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    Paid or not doesn't matter (see below). What does matter is whether what you are doing falls under the definition of on-duty time. Sitting and waiting; you could log that off-duty. An accepted* practice when loading/unloading is to log off-duty for the bulk of the time if you do not have to watch, count, or otherwise do something during the process.

    Question 10: How does compensation relate to on-duty time?

    Guidance: The fact that a driver is paid for a period of time does not always establish that the driver was on-duty for the purposes of part 395 during that period of time. A driver may be relieved of duty under certain conditions and still be paid.

    - Regulations Section

    *Accepted... until it isn't. ;) Okay, so if it takes three hours to get you loaded and you're in the sleeper or otherwise off-duty, common practice is to log ~15 minutes at the start and ~15 minutes at the end. If you are actually doing something regarding the loading process, then you should probably log that as on-duty and/or follow your carrier's policies.
     
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  8. GlobalFM001

    GlobalFM001 Light Load Member

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    How would you explain the odometer discrepancy?
     
  9. Concorde

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    Off duty or sleeper berth..that’s it.
     
  10. tommymonza

    tommymonza Road Train Member

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    Safety never gave us a hard time about it. It's not up to us having to switch the Elogs over to Drive. We can but never did.

    Our safety was strict but looked the other way on it.

    Heck I had one day when I knew it was going to be every bit of my 11 hour clock to get to my appointment for the next morning.

    3/4 of the way there where I got up into Wisconsin and could start making time I ran into an accident that has the road traffic stopped.

    I switched over to off duty while I was stopped. I idled for miles in 1st for an hour and a half never having the clock flip over to drive.

    Yea probably shouldn't do that again.
     
  11. SteveScott

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    I'm always off duty when I'm waiting for a door. I've never had the DOT question any of it during inspections of my elogs.
     
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