Having trouble backing

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  1. BigpopperRunner

    BigpopperRunner Light Load Member

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    First day of class was also first day on the truck this past weekend, we just got thrown in the fire without any knowledge of how to back, our instructor showed us once and that was it. The next day was offset backing, which I completely messed up on, first time doing it, all the students in the truck had a very hard time getting it in. I got it in after 10 pull ups thanks to the help of another advanced student. Our instructor showed us how to do it when we kept hitting the cones LMAO. So from my understanding, you crank the wheel left, trailer will go right and vice versa. But what do we focus on and how long and far do we crank the wheels on an offset back to the left or right without overshooting it? I finally got the concept after watching a few videos that if the trailer drifts left, we turn the wheel left to correct the drive and so on. Two instructor showed us different ways, one guy got it in the hole in one shot and the other said to back in the trailer at an angle then do a pull up and then proceed to do a straight back which is alot easier. Felt kind of bummed out after the first try lmaoooo.
     
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  3. x1Heavy

    x1Heavy Road Train Member

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    Buy a truck and trailer toy.

    Play with it.

    Your trailer will tell you exactly what you need to do with that steering wheel.
     
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  4. #1 Kenworth

    #1 Kenworth Light Load Member

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    I was instructed on a short dump trailer. Put your hand a the bottom of the wheel. Need trailer to go right move hand right and follow trailer slowly so you don't have to chase it. Longer trailers you don't need to chase them too much as they turn slower.
     
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  5. Oor

    Oor Road Train Member

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    Most places will tell you a formula. Crank wheel over, count off five seconds, reverse wheel.

    Bug mirror and bottom convex mirror are your friends. Don't even bother with the California mirror.
     
  6. Pedigreed Bulldog

    Pedigreed Bulldog Road Train Member

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    Stop thinking about the truck & trailer as two separate units, but rather the truck as the steering axle for the trailer. Just as your steer tires turn in relation to the truck to make the truck go where you want, the truck needs to turn in relation to the trailer to make the trailer go where you want. How does the truck need to be positioned for the trailer to go where it needs to go? Turn the wheel to get the truck into that position under the trailer.

    For example, you want the trailer to go to the right. Which way does the nose of the tractor need to point? If you were backing up your car and wanted it to go to the right, how would you turn the front tires? That's where the tractor needs to be in relation to the trailer. How do you get the tractor there?
     
  7. Pedigreed Bulldog

    Pedigreed Bulldog Road Train Member

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    Also, small inputs and patience will prove more smooth & successful (and confidence inspiring) than large, frequent inputs. You want to turn the wheel "just enough" to correct the path of the trailer without having to hurry up and turn the wheel the other way to correct your previous overcorrection. Slow & steady.
     
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  8. bryan21384

    bryan21384 Road Train Member

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    Dont oversteer. You wont even have to turn the wheel a full turn. Keep an eye on the back end of your trailer, and adjust accordingly. One thing I will add: when getting back under it, turn the wheel fast. A lot of people take their time turning the wheel when backing. You will be surprised how much distance is covered in a matter of seconds. You dont want your trailer to move faster than you trying to get back under it, if that makes sense
     
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  9. OldeSkool

    OldeSkool Road Train Member

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    Don't worry. I know guys who have drove for years who still can't back up worth a flip. Best thing for me is pull up plenty far if there's room, then back up using small corrections instead of whipping wheel back and forth. I used to think don't pull up too far you just have farther to back up, but sometimes having that extra time to line up is nice. It takes years of practice to get good.
     
  10. JoeTruck

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    The first thousand backups are tough.
    After that they get easy.
     
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